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::Well, copyright didn't stop them from creating [[Hamilton]], or basing Kadabra on Uri Geller (the entire Abra line is named directly after real people). They probably just wanted to create a Pokémon reminiscent of a highly recognizable kaiju from popular culture. Another example of low profile origin is Wobbuffet. I also think that Pokémon use a lot of syncretism. Golduck is based on a kappa, an amphibious human monster, but its ingame specie is ''Duck Pokémon'', Shiftry is based on a tengu, a bird-like monster, but it's a tree. They don't need to be exact copies of they original mythical creatures. So it isn't strange for a Baragon-like Pokémon line to have some rabbit features. And where is stated that Nidoking (or its preevolutions) is based on a rodent? I really can't find any direct reference from game or anime. Its similarity to rabbits, noted in the article, is as much referenced as its similiarity to Baragon. They are based only on its appearance (and to me Nidoking is way more dinosaurian than leporine). Also, Nidoking is in part Ground, so it wouldn't be so strange for him to be based on a monster that lives underground like Baragon. What to me look like evidence, for you is only a coincidence, but you are entitled to your opinion as much as I am and I don't want to seem too pedantic. I'm wondering what other Bulbapedians thinks about this. --[[User:Siegfried|Siegfried]] 09:22, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
::Well, copyright didn't stop them from creating [[Hamilton]], or basing Kadabra on Uri Geller (the entire Abra line is named directly after real people). They probably just wanted to create a Pokémon reminiscent of a highly recognizable kaiju from popular culture. Another example of low profile origin is Wobbuffet. I also think that Pokémon use a lot of syncretism. Golduck is based on a kappa, an amphibious human monster, but its ingame specie is ''Duck Pokémon'', Shiftry is based on a tengu, a bird-like monster, but it's a tree. They don't need to be exact copies of they original mythical creatures. So it isn't strange for a Baragon-like Pokémon line to have some rabbit features. And where is stated that Nidoking (or its preevolutions) is based on a rodent? I really can't find any direct reference from game or anime. Its similarity to rabbits, noted in the article, is as much referenced as its similiarity to Baragon. They are based only on its appearance (and to me Nidoking is way more dinosaurian than leporine). Also, Nidoking is in part Ground, so it wouldn't be so strange for him to be based on a monster that lives underground like Baragon. What to me look like evidence, for you is only a coincidence, but you are entitled to your opinion as much as I am and I don't want to seem too pedantic. I'm wondering what other Bulbapedians thinks about this. --[[User:Siegfried|Siegfried]] 09:22, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
:::So a few things.
:::The origin sections, unless specifically stated by the games or something else, are nearly ''all'' speculation. That's why most say "may", "could be", or things like that.
:::''Basing'' something on another thing has no real meaning. You could take a Dragon Pokémon that we haven't already hunted down a possible origin for, and claim that it's related to nearly any myth related to a dragon, because the Pokémon is a dragon. That's also like when people make an OC for a fan fic or to draw. It's ''based'' off of the Pokémon series. So what?
:::And I personally don't see any relation between Nidoking and Baragon. Yes, they both have a tail, and a horn, and they have large ears, but so does a jackalope. '''[[Team Rocket|<small><span style="color: #550000;">R.A.</span></small>]] [[User:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Hunter</font></small>]] [[User Talk:Rocket Admin Hunter Blade|<small><font color="#FF2400">Blade</font></small>]]''' 16:40, 1 July 2010 (UTC)