User talk:Force Fire

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Japanese names, no english

Hi there! I have one little problem with some pages, because some of the pages that have the template {{Japanese name|rom}} do have the text 'He/She is unnamed in the English dub, simply referred to as >Name<.' and some don't. So I began editing those who are not from the anime, and there were quite a lot of both. So someone said I should contact a staff member before beginning to make all those edits. So now I'm contacting to you, what should we do? Remove those lines if they are there, or make them if the aren't? Thanks! Lokki (talk) 08:25, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

I think stating that a character is unnamed when the template already says it is unnecessary, so I'd say remove those that do have that extra line.--ForceFire 09:43, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
All right, thanks Lokki (talk) 13:48, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
Done! Thank you very much. Lokki (talk) 14:26, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Pokémon with gender differences in the anime

How come some Pokémon that have gender differences are allowed to have their genders confirmed while others are not allowed? --PKMNAdventurer (talk) 04:13, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Both variants of the gender has to appear in order for us to use gender differences. A female Gyarados has not appeared in the anime yet, so for all we know, the animators could decide that all Gyarados (male and female) have skin colored whiskers Just because they've showed Pikachu's gender difference, does not mean all other gender differences are confirmed to exist. Games=/=anime. The animators can decide to change it up because they just can--ForceFire 04:33, 4 September 2016 (UTC)

Playerking95

Once again me and him are having disagreements over wording, specifically whether it should be "XY135/XY136" or "XY135 or XY136". Now he's acting really disruptive and stuck-up with this edit summary. He needs a lesson in manners. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 18:06, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

But I don't. You need a big lesson in hypocrisy and you need to learn that you shouldn't be changing edits when they don't need to be changed. Playerking95 (talk) 18:09, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
And I would like to know what harm is being posed by my edits when the readers can't even see that part of the content? GrammarFreak01 (talk) 18:10, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
Seriously, hypocrisy. Do you at ALL know what it means, because if you do, then realise that if it doesn't matter, then why did you change it in the first place and why did you make something longer when you said shorter sentences were better? Please, answer me that, at the very least. Playerking95 (talk) 18:14, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
I thought others agreed with me that it doesn't really matter? And did you really just undo my last post? GrammarFreak01 (talk) 18:16, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
I don't care what the others think and I have said that it's stupid anyway. Edits should be made to make things better, not the same and it does matter to me, so just answer the questions. And yes, I did undo your post, but it was an accident, honestly. Playerking95 (talk) 18:20, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
Well, yes, there is no difference, but I don't care what anyone else thinks. Who uses / for "or" anyway? And like I said, it's clearly not harming anything. And I'm not convinced that you undid my post on accident. You've got an attitude and you show it when others challenge your work. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 18:24, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
Well clearly you don't care what anyone else thinks, because you're getting your way, even though it's horribly unfair to me and many other editors here who posted things which were fine in the first place. The little guy never gets his side heard and I added an "/" as a placeholder because they might just appear in one episode, and then I or someone else can delete the "/" and the episode that it doesn't appear in or I or someone else could add brackets and the word and. Your way implies that there could be no "and". And about the deletion of the post, I used the history section and clicked undo to check your edit to the page, like I do with most pages and if you don't believe me, well, and I believe I'm in my right to say this, since it's not a big deal, I don't care. Believe me, don't believe, but I know that it was an accident, because we all make them. Playerking95 (talk) 18:32, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
You undid one of my edits here YET AGAIN. I'm really not convinced you're doing this on accident. If that's the way you edit articles then I'm not seeing it in your immediate edit history; you've only been doing this here ever since I reported you. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 18:36, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
Again, it was an accident, because I was too focused on responding to your posts after checking it and there's no point in reporting this, since I did nothing wrong, since it was only an accident. And you need to calm down, accidents happen, you can easily undo it and it's not the end of the world. But you're still going off topic, so please answer the questions about the hypocrisy. Playerking95 (talk) 18:40, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
I DID answer your question, aren't you reading? And also, you need to calm down when someone makes harmless changes to your edits. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 18:42, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
No you didn't and does it really matter isn't an answer, I want to know why you think your similar edits are fine, when they are basically the same thing, and why you've backflipped on your shorter is better rule, unless you're just trying to make sure that only you are editing here. Also, I am calm and from your second most previous post, you are not, so please calm down and I'm just talking about my edits, I'm talking about most of your edits in general, so please read what I'm saying. Playerking95 (talk) 18:51, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
THIS was my answer: "Well, yes, there is no difference, but I don't care what anyone else thinks. Who uses / for "or" anyway? And like I said, it's clearly not harming anything." And since WHEN did I have a "shorter is better" rule? GrammarFreak01 (talk) 18:54, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
Okay, answer this simple question. If there's no harm and there's no difference, then why edit it in the first place? And you told me that it was better to have reappeared instead of appeared again, because it simpler and there is no way that the edit is simpler then it being shorter. Yet, you're making my edits longer, even though they are hidden and they'll be changed soon. Playerking95 (talk) 19:00, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
Because why not? It's not hurting ANYTHING. And I said I understood the difference between "reappear" and "appear again". The / and or part, I DO NOT understand. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 19:09, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
It is, because it hurts my feelings and other feelings when their edits are changed to something similar, just for no one to care about this and if it doesn't harm anything, which it does, then please don't do it in the first place. I'm fine with you fixing mistakes and adding original content, but please, please stop changing things like that and I explain the "/" thing. So, since it's hidden and there not much of a difference, please leave it in future and then we can put this all behind us and maybe even get along. I'm not a bad guy, I just get annoyed when I feel that there's an injustice taking place. It's not that big of a request really. Playerking95 (talk) 19:14, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
We'll let Force Fire be the judge of that. Force Fire, where are you? Take care of this. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 19:17, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
Great, I'm nice to you and then you ask someone to come here who is already on your side. This is something we can just settle between us. If you see an incorrectly spelled word, bad use of grammar, or other things like that, then you can edit them, and you made such edit son Meyer's page and I think also Steven Stone's page recently and I have no problems with those, so why can't you just make those kinds of edits and not change things so that they're basically the same edits, when they're fine and it does cause me and possibly others harm by doing this. I just don't see why we can't just be okay with this? Playerking95 (talk) 19:23, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
No. If our previous interaction (and everyone else's contributions to said interaction) was anything to go by, you definitely have an attitude when things don't go your way, whatever that way may be. And I can tell we're definitely not going to see eye to eye with anything. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 19:28, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
I don't have an attitude problem, even if others say so, because none of you know me, so you are definitely wrong about that, among other things and yes, we won't see eye to eye, when you are fine with treating people unfairly, and also, please post in the correct order next time and don't change previous posts, I have told you this before, but I honestly don't believe you actually pay attention to half of what I say and as I've said countless times, it isn't harmless and even if it was, then there's NO reason to do it in the first place. There's no use trying to talk to any of you, because you're obviously not listening, or you don't care about what's fair or both, but I guess that's what happens when the little guy never gets his voice heard. Playerking95 (talk) 19:36, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
"I don't have an attitude problem, even if others say so, because none of you know me..." This discussion seems to say otherwise. "...I honestly don't believe you actually pay attention to half of what I say and as I've said countless times, it isn't harmless and even if it was, then there's NO reason to do it in the first place." I DO pay attention to what you're saying; don't think I'm being ignorant about this issue. And yes, there IS A REASON to do it in the first place, because who in the world uses a / in the place of "or"? GrammarFreak01 (talk) 19:41, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

"it hurts my feelings and other feelings when their edits are changed to something similar" It's a wiki, get over it. Your edits are going to be changed; that's how wikis work. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 19:26, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I actually DO know that, but they shouldn't be unnecessarily changed. Playerking95 (talk) 19:28, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
But maybe those changes would be harmless because technically no one is seeing it yet. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 19:29, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
Woah. Okay, first things first. Hidden notes don't really have to be edited, their hidden, not like anyone is going to see it and nitpick at it. So yes, editing hidden notes is unnecessary and kind of pointless, they can be edited when they are ready to be unhidden. What else is unnecessary is this edit summary Playerking, don't act like you know everything. You continual reverting clearly prove that. I thought I told you to go to a talk page before clicking the undo button? Don't just revert something you don't like, because knowing you, it'll just end up in a back and forth edit war.
Side note, why are you using the undo button to respond to others Playerking? It's clearly done you no favors , seeing as you accidentally removed some of GrammarFreak's comments.--ForceFire 05:33, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
But the thing is, who uses / in the place of "or"? It's such an unusual usage of punctuation. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 07:43, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, "/" should not be used when linking hidden things, as someone might miss the "/" when their unhiding the info. Nevertheless, it can get removed/updated when it is ready to be unhidden. Just don't worry too much about it or any hidden content, like I said, no one is going to see it and nitpick at it.--ForceFire 07:47, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
Well, I'm sorry, but I am very obsessive about these things and will not care about whether it is hidden or not. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 08:00, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Why did you remove the trivia I added?

Why did you remove the trivia I added on the M18 page? I am referring to this page: http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/M18 - unsigned comment from Awesomevenustoise101 (talkcontribs)

Because things shown in trailers are either never actually shown in the movie or are different in the movie than the trailer. It's a common thing that is to be expected.--ForceFire 16:38, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Ash's Sligoo/Goodra

Sent you an email regarding a voice actor, just wondering if you take this as confirmation--BigDocFan (talk) 20:31, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Okay, cool. Feel free to add those.--ForceFire 06:34, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

official sources

It seems like information can only be from official sources or by playing, watching reading the specific Pokémon product but what if the information on the unofficial source is true? Awesomevenustoise101 (talk) 19:05, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Find where that unofficial source got their information from, and if it comes from an official source, then site the official source not the unofficial source.--ForceFire 04:25, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Contributions and edits and talking

I wasn't trying to make an edit war. I was just trying to contribute to the pages and the talk pages on here are very confusing. I am not sure why someone made a re-edit and didn't message me beforehand? I have been adding things I have noticed that while watching Pokémon and the errors they have made in the English dubbed version. Maybe there should be an easier way to message each other like a mail system or a chat box? I was only trying to help expand on things throughout the show that have happened. Please leave a message back. Raziel 5 (talk) 18:14, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

I said why I removed it in the edit summary, the errors are either too minor or not errors at all. If your edit has been removed, don't just add it right back, go to the talk page of the user that reverted you. And the talk page is the most effective way of sorting out discussions/problems about articles.--ForceFire 05:16, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
Well, I find it very confusing that you have to edit someone's page to talk to them unless there is another way to do so? Sorry and is there anyway for you to remove the edit warring thing off the page? I was just really confused on how the pages work. I noticed also when you go to the edit top page thing on my profile even if you go out it is no longer there and just says edit this page? Not sure if that is an error in the website or what. Also no one has addressed my question Azumarill vs. Wartortle. Bubble or Bubble Beam? on Talk:EP216. Hoping someone can clear up either what attack it was or whether or not it was an error on Misty's part? Raziel 5 (talk) 14:46, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
How is going directly to the user's talk page to communicate with them confusing? This is something that should only be discussed on Bulbapedia, not elsewhere. I can delete revision history (if that's what you mean), but I don't see the need to. If you meant restore the edit that you made, then no, I'ce already given my reasons for their removal.
Someone will respond to your message on EP216's talk page when they do, have some patience. Also, sign your comments at the end of your comments, not at the beginning. And indent your comments by adding a colon, and more as the discussion progresses, so you would add four colons after my comment if you were to respond to me, and I would add five colons before my comment if I were to respond back, so on so forth.--ForceFire 15:18, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
It's confusing because like on this page we are chatting on it doesn't notify me when you put something new even though it is watched. Not sure why it doesn't notify me of that? The history and contributions and editing on the pages kind of baffled me at first , too. I guess revision history is what I meant? I believe you meant to put I've not I'ce? Guessing keyboard or finger slipped? I have also watched Pokémon since 1997 in the USA when it was released on television by Pioneer Entertainment.Raziel 5 (talk) 16:21, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
Users are only notified if someone edits their talk page, you don't get notified if I edit my talk page. The only way to know if someone has responded to your message on a talk page that's not yours is to have it on your watchlist or lurk the recent changes. If you meant revision history, I'm not deleting it as I don't see the need to.--ForceFire 07:53, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Branched evolutions

We explicitly treat Mega Evolutions the same way we do for alternate forms for purposes like infoboxes and time switches, so why would we not treat Megas in the same way we treat Wormadam's alternate forms on List of Pokémon with branched evolutions? It seems like a no-brainer to me. Pumpkinking0192 (talk) 05:50, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

A part of Burmy's evolution into Wormadam relies on which form it is when it evolves. Whereas Mega Evolution is straightforward and is not dependent on the "pre-evolved" form--ForceFire 05:53, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Megalith page

Hey, there. I have a question. Would it be alright if we make a page for the Megalith? Seabiscuit2020 (talk) 19:47, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Fairy type

So does the fairy type exist or not? Because we have seen in that chapter that they exist from moves like misty terrain and Pokemon like diancie. It's really unprofessional to get rid of legit information because "they haven't discovered it yet", because they clearly exist. If they are not confirmed then the moves should be unconformed as well. Don't let the wiki fence ride.--Pikablu (talk) 17:57, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Using a Fairy type move in a Gen VI era manga doesn't make the move a fairy type? That rule only goes for Pokémon and moves that changed types and gained the new type. If a Pokémon used Bite and has been using Bite since Generation I, then the template will show the move as a Normal type unless specified as a Dark type move. If it learns Bite post Gen I instead, then the template will show it as a Dark type.--ForceFire 03:29, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Video on EP 38 proof public now

I just fixed the video publicity, now everyone can view it. Sorry for that. I'm new to a wiki like this so I have alot to learn. - unsigned comment from TheGreenBeetle (talkcontribs)

That's okay, take your time with learning how the wiki works. I'll add the info in and fix the reference for you. Also, don't forget to sign with four tildes (~) after every comment, and don't re-sign an unsigned comment as it will give off the wrong timestamp.--ForceFire 04:26, 26 September 2016 (UTC)