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It is currently 3:32 EST. If daylight savings time is in effect in the United States, it is actually 4:32 EDT.

On weekdays, I'm generally active from 17:00 to 23:00. On weekends, I'm generally active from 10:00 to 23:00. During the summer months, these times may change drastically depending on my geographical location and schedule.


I hope you don't mind that I jumped in on the images discussion for My Pokémon Ranch in your absence. Do you have time to get those two newest ones (see here) done before becoming unavailable again tomorrow, or should I continue to consult Pattyman regarding them? CycloneGU (talk) 17:18, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

I've uploaded them to the Archives. --Abcboy (talk) 17:36, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Shuffle Pages?

I know you're sporadic until the 13th (I see you're still around at least once a day, hence my messaging you now LOL), but I need to know what's going on with this. I'm working through my sidegames layout additions. At present, I've finished all Rumble U entries and all Battle Trozei entries in my layout, and as I type am through Kanto in the Rumble World set, all that's left is the Shuffle entries, then I can start adding them to pages.

That's where this question comes in. Are we definitely going ahead with the project to get all pages set up for separate areas? Or is that shelved for the time being? That would be the difference between, for instance, this Galarie Rouge link or this Galarie Rouge link (which would be attached to each of the Pokémon in the area, just like Stage 1, Stage 6, etc. in Battle Trozei links).

I can also create the other pages in your userspace for you if you'd like, to save you the trouble (or if it's approved, you can move the template in and I can just create the rest in mainspace, I just need to know where the project stands). Creating the pages for each area shouldn't be too much trouble. I still haven't gotten around to the area images yet, but I'm working through my projects and should be getting to that. I might want to do that before putting the Shuffle entries in my layouts as I need to update my list, anyway (weekly releases would add to our weekly edits LOL). The main reason I want a status update is because I would hate to get them all in on the current page...and then we have to turn around and edit 300 or so pages again with new links after the page are moved into place (meaning we can't drop them from the main Shuffle page until the editing is complete or we have broken anchor links). CycloneGU (talk) 04:06, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

  • I put a template in your userspace and put it on the Puerto Blanco page.
  • I am done (locally) all sidegames template adds except for Shuffle.
  • I'm trimming those without entries on Monday after any new Pokémon appear then.
So I'm looking to have the link bit figured out by Monday (possibly Tuesday) so I can finalize those layouts and start adding them this week. CycloneGU (talk) 17:27, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
Actual proper splitting requires EB approval, which as far as I know hasn't yet been obtained. I emailed Kogoro about the page split a few days ago, so hopefully when the EB convenes next we will have an answer. --Abcboy (talk) 06:41, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
I thought that might be the case. I can work on the other pages in the meantime; that is, unless you already have them all saved in Notepad or something. That way, if approved, they're ready to go and can quickly be put into place. I have screenshots of everything through the original 150 stage locations, too; that's 11 screens to get uploaded if the split is approved. (I did not take the last two yet as I have not S ranked one of the five stages in view from 151-155 and 181-185.) CycloneGU (talk) 12:20, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
You can go ahead and create them. I have colors, infoboxes, and in other languages sections ready on User:Abcboy/Puerto Blanco. --Abcboy (talk) 12:38, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I saw those. That's what I was going to create them partially for, to help clean up that footer. Got a job interview today, so I'll look at it when I get home and upload the first of the images (no point uploading the others unless it's approved as there's no other place to put them, and they're not all needed in the main article, I think). CycloneGU (talk) 12:39, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

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Noticed the old template is now retired, so I'll get those working pages started for the proposed stage split pages in Shuffle. Do you want me to create them in your userspace? Or shall we move the template I added and the existing page over to my userspace so everything stays together (and so I'm not creating all the pages in yours, though that won't matter if they become official anyway as the history updates after the move)? Also, should I create pages for events, or leave that alone as a single page for now? We can always have the events in the template link to a single page, as well, so the events can still be labeled. CycloneGU (talk) 20:28, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

It doesn't matter much to me where you create them, though I will say the history's going to be a jumbled mess either way. I don't think it would be a bad idea to create a page for Expert Stages and Special Stages (perhaps with a disambiguating (Shuffle) if necessary), but a page for each event would probably be overkill. --Abcboy (talk) 20:34, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Someone else said the same about separate event pages, and I see the point as well. I still think linking in the template is a good idea for the special stages (expert stages meanwhile only have one home and one designation). As for Expert Stages and Special Stages...well, changing back to square brackets (I tested them) shows they don't exist. The question on that is whether that's the name to use, or whether we should disambiguate them immediately. I'll use the basic names for now in userspace. Going to upload the first image for that page at some point, and maybe the second; will hold off on the rest. Also with the old template now retired, I can start going through the articles at my leisure to add all the missing game data for the four games, so I'm going to create two versions of the additions; one will link to the Shuffle page directly while the other will link to the individual pages. It's actually a very easy fix for all stages; I would just chop off both the Shuffle page and the anchor, leaving the stage name (which is there anyway) by itself, so find/replace will give me the second version in about 15 searches (with special stages having a link to that page and anchors still in place). So I'll create the current version first for that reason. CycloneGU (talk) 20:44, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Also, the reason for the idea of articles for special events comes from the fact that some areas have 10, some as many as 30 stages, and some events already have themselves 10 (Safari) or 20 (Daily Pokémon) stages in them. There's no difference between those. It's smaller events that might not need their own pages. CycloneGU (talk) 20:47, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Three pages are created. Tried to follow your table colour format. Can you give them a check? I might be guessing wrong. CycloneGU (talk) 22:52, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
All that was off was that the header and footer cells should be the secondary color. (the other color used in the infobox) --Abcboy (talk) 23:16, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
Hmm. How are the colours for each determined? Obviously I see the cloours already in place in the other language tables. Also have to figure out what Expert will use, and Special, for the tables; we don't really have a language table in those ones unless we give the language translations for every event name at the bottom, but then it's overkill. CycloneGU (talk) 23:20, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
The colors are supposed to be based off of the primary color of the label thing with the name. The secondary is the color the location is named after. Puerto Blanco, for example, has an orange label and is named after the color white. Otherwise, I'd just use the colors that the stage generally features. --Abcboy (talk) 23:39, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

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Ah. I am used to seeing one colour primarily featured in each table, not two. I would suggest just matching the one colour, but if we want to use the thematic colour in there as well, this may work. Some look better than others. Never even thought about the second word in the titles. LOL CycloneGU (talk) 23:54, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

Next four are done if you want to check and add anything to them. CycloneGU (talk) 00:32, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
All thirteen areas completed! That leaves Expert stages and Special stages. How do you want to colour these? I think the same template can be used, but there is no "Next" or "Previous" needed. I also left a blank "Next" entry on Pedra Valley until we know for sure there's no next area.
I'm going to create "Great Challenge" and "Pokémon Safari"" pages; both are already at least the size of each of the first three areas, with the former being larger than every main area. I am also thinking, thanks to the amount of prose involved, that the "Competitive Stage" section might also merit a page. The rest can stay on a generic page for special stages. All types of special stages (including those I named) will be listed on the generic page, but the sections for the larger ones can link to the separate pages instead of having the information on that page. The template can be designed to show all types of special stages (as it is now) but can have anchored links on sections that don't merit pages of their own. CycloneGU (talk) 01:55, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
Expert Stages and Special Stages should use a colorscheme based off of the name-bar thing (so cyan and magenta) and some other color from the stage design (probably green or black and violet or yellow). Hopefully a workable colorscheme can come out of that. --Abcboy (talk) 02:09, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
Expert seems to be a light blue. The result screen shows a purple-shaded curtain (lighter and darker), and the stage scenery has some green elements in it. Here's a view of Lucario's stage. You can also see the map area here (that guy bought Hearts, clearly).
Special area looks like this. The text area background is purple. Kind of halfway between a dark and a light purple. Here's the special stage version of Meowth if it helps. CycloneGU (talk) 02:18, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Shiny Descriptions

Earlier today, someone started editing in copies of paragraphs in the Biology section of several articles. I reverted them as they were mostly repetitive, but is there some reason why Shiny differences are not noted in Biology already? I think that's a good place for them, but want to figure that out before telling that user it's something that can be done a certain way. CycloneGU (talk) 23:05, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

I think it's something to the effect of "it's just a pallete swap" and a "it's in the sprite box". Those I would imagine are reasons that staff would have removed it. --Abcboy (talk) 23:22, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Shuffle Pages Part 2

Other section was getting too big.

I changed my mind on the Safari getting a page. We may need to include a note on it for those seeking the Safari Zone so there is no confusion of the two (and maybe vice versa as well).

With those two out of the way, either of us can continue on Special Stages again. The order of everything still to be added should match the current Special Stages, meaning - from the current copy - what to add now is:

  • Meowth's Coin Mania
  • The Daily Pokémon (at most a blurb, referencing the separate page)
  • Pokémon Safari (same as the prior section)
  • One chance a day! (two stages)
  • Tons of Exp. Points (Victini)
  • Escalation Battle (Giratina)
  • An Evolving Challenge! (for now, a separate page is unneeded, but once all nine are out it might be close enough; Johto might get this, too!)
  • Competitive Stage (this will get a separate page, I think, so a short blurb again is generally all we need)

At that point, I believe the pages project (sans pictures, which I have many of) is finished for EB approval! The section could be done later this evening if I feel like it (or if you want to finish it, your call), or I'll finish it tomorrow. CycloneGU (talk) 02:00, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Competitive Stage is created. You may want to put a better description on the bonus rewards; I don't think I made it clear that the numbers represent prize thresholds. I created the separate table because the original entry broke that row of the table, causing the cells to not exist (availability instead moved all the way over under North America); the new table is a better setup, anyway. CycloneGU (talk) 18:21, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
Project is done. Template is set up to work with userspaced versions to show functionality and that everything is covered. All that's left are images, which can be done later, especially in cases where we, well, don't have any (certain special stages which we need to see again to get a picture for...unless we can freely use official ones). All staff has to do upon approval is undo the last template edit, which I explained in the edit summary; if not approved yet...well, it stays the way it is. LOL CycloneGU (talk) 23:47, 16 July 2015 (UTC)


Is there a rule about English being the language used on Bulbapedia? Asking because a user used Swedish on a user page. CycloneGU (talk) 21:32, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

It's fine. Provided they're not breaking any other policy in that language, it doesn't really matter. (And besides, we have Google Translate now!) --Abcboy (talk) 21:43, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Alright, wanted to check before saying anything. Though Google Translate also isn't always the most accurate translation available. LOL
Did the EB review the split page project for Shuffle stages yesterday? I noticed you made other EB-approved edits. CycloneGU (talk) 21:53, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
No, they have not. I'm going to tag Pokémon Shuffle with {{split}} to formalize the move. --Abcboy (talk) 22:00, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
I linked to the first of the pages and invited discussion at the main article talk page. CycloneGU (talk) 22:44, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Edit Request

Here, I have made one edit request but I think no one noticed it. Can you please make that edit too? Yash Sen 16:27, 19 July 2015 (UTC)


I completely missed that the Blazikenite is the second prize in the chain. I think I'm going to include Escalation Battle in the separate page project because the amount of prose for that page is going to be unreal after an edit over there, so I'll start working on that this evening. BTW, turns out ALL THREE PRIZES go to the highest winners. The irony is that the Jewel would let you buy half a third of the Coins to buy a Complexity-1, so they value the Jewel under the 25K prize anyway. LOL CycloneGU (talk) 21:05, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

"The top 25,000 scorers get a Complexity -1...unless you are in the top 20,000 places, in which case you instead get a Blazikenite, allowing your Blaziken to Mega Evolve! And if you're in the top 6,000, you get a Mega Speedup as well!"
The wording of the in-game notice and on the official site imply that you either get a Complexity -1 or a Blazikenite, not both. --Abcboy (talk) 21:32, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Well, I'll be...what the heck kind of tiered prizing is this? LOL So basically, 5,000 people will get Complexity-1 as a consolation prize. I wish these guys would quit experimenting with the prize pools and do something more sensible. Oh well. I'm still going to remove the "only" because there's no point to it in any of the entries, as each line in each cell is its own sentence, in that sense. I'll only use the Blazikenite level in the single-entry version since that's the intended prize. I wonder if we should just keep the Complexity-1 separate and not in the table itself on the current version, using a note tag to reference it as a consolation prize? Though honestly, I don't see why they have to keep limiting prizes; apparently they make money this way, or they wouldn't keep doing it. I still haven't spent a penny. LOL CycloneGU (talk) 21:48, 20 July 2015 (UTC)


Pursuant to your thread on my page yesterday, I noted there that I started work on it. I have copied and been converting the table to English in my User:CycloneGU/Sandbox. English descriptions are all that we need in that one column (this can still be helpful, however), then we can start looking at the data that you want to see possibly added at User:Abcboy/Skill as it lies in the sandbox right now. There are notes on some of the multipliers that we still need to analyze and figure out. CycloneGU (talk) 20:29, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

Done. To what extent do you want to use some of this in the Skill table now? Did you just want to add the damage multipliers? I also made some English notes where they had notes (those were generally my own words) that you may wish to check as some entries may not have notes on your version. CycloneGU (talk) 15:39, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
Would you be able to check the accuracy of the multipliers? For example, Power of 4+ was said to be a 3x multiplier on the official site, but is stated to be 4.5x here. --Abcboy (talk) 16:07, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
I might be able to check some of them, provided I figure out what to look for. I am currently working on Cresselia, so it will have to be something I can take into that stage and not necessarily fail. LOL checking the ones that claim to increase to a power based on how many times in a row it's matched might prove more challenging. CycloneGU (talk) 16:10, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
About the multipliers, it's very simple. When you make a match of 4, normally the Pokémon's Attack Power will be multiplied by 1.5. But when Power of 4 is activated, that amount is multiplied by 1.5 once more, which means 1.5 x 1.5 = 2.25x (yeah, it's stronger that a normal match of 5, which is 2x). In other cases, when Power of 4+ is activated, that power will be tripled instead, which means 1.5 x 3 = 4.5x. So the 3x multiplier in the official site implies that it's compared to a normal match of 4, not the Attack Power. And I'm really sorry if I made any grammatical errors, since my English is very poor. Thank you! --Yen01 (talk) 09:20, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
So it would not be 1.5 x 1.5 x 1.5 instead? I'm surprised they multiply 1.5 x 1.5 for one and directly by three for the other. CycloneGU (talk) 19:35, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
What Yen01 is saying is that damage for Power of 4 is power * 1.5 (because it's a match of four) * 1.5 (because Power of 4 was activated), while damage for Power of 4+ is power * 1.5 (because it's a match of four) * 3 (because Power of 4+ was activated). Thus we get the multipliers 2.25x and 4.5x, respectively. The effect of Power of 4/Power of 4+ is really the second multiplier, though, and not the two combined. If we could catalog all the other multipliers too, that would definitely help make the table more clear. --Abcboy (talk) 22:56, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Ah, so we know the exact multiplier. This can be aided with a note on those that might be confusing detailing exactly why the multiplier is that. CycloneGU (talk) 23:05, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
That's exactly what I mean, thanks Abcboy for helping me explain it clearly (I definitely need to improve my English a lot more) --Yen01 (talk) 09:59, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Club Look-See

Hi there, Ive uploaded a file of Nathan from Club Look-See, I just don't know how to link it to the article. Thanks! - unsigned comment from Ching Yeung (talkcontribs)

Added. --Abcboy (talk) 07:23, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
Uploaded Wanda too! That's all the images for now. Thanks! CY (talk) 02:17, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Raikou, Entei, Suicune

On the species pages, under the events section,. there should be a whole bunch of Shiny stars next to many events as the event detail pages shows them as Shiny. Can you look into this? I was going to just add it, but I'm guessing there's a reason it's not there on any of them. CycloneGU (talk) 23:46, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Someone probably just forgot. Just add [[File:ShinyIVStar.png|Shiny|link=Shiny Pokémon]] after the level and it should be fine. --Abcboy (talk) 23:55, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Done. CycloneGU (talk) 04:59, 25 July 2015 (UTC)

Pokemon movies in South Asia

Hey, Hungama TV has started airing promos for M02 as Pokemon the Movie: Ash Pikachu aur Lugia in Danger. Can you change the info on the south asia page to reflect this? Unhide the M02 info and change its name? I know a source is needed, but all we have at the moment is this. I know that the page is unofficial, but theyhave clicked a picture of the channel, and it can be accepted as real source. So, please simply change The second movie Pokémon The Movie 2000 - The Power of One is coming soon this year on the channel as Pokémon The Movie - Ek ki Taaqat (Hindi: एक की ताकत) according to Hungama TV. to The second movie Pokémon The Movie 2000 - The Power of One is coming soon on the channel as Pokémon The Movie - Ash Pikachu Laur Lugia in Danger (Hindi: Ash Pikachu और Lugia इन डेंजर).. → PikaTepig999 8:09 PM, July 27, 2015 (IST) 14:39, 27 July 2015 (UTC) | Edited 8:26 PM, July 27, 2015 (IST) → PikaTepig999 8:26 PM, July 27, 2015 (IST) 14:56, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Hey here's the promo video. Looks like it's a teaser of the movie. Yash Sen 15:51, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
It can be changed when it airs, so that the information about the openings and endings and skipped scenes can all be added at once. There's no rush to change the page. --Abcboy (talk) 03:07, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Hey it's not necessary that they will do that same thing (about the theme songs) with M02 too. So that is why please add that info to the article as the promo has aired therefore it's necessary for that info to be added. Later updates can be added later. So please add that info to the article as the promo has aired and it is necessary now only to be added. Yash Sen 07:40, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Added. --Abcboy (talk) 07:54, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! Yash Sen 08:06, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

(resetting indent)I have a couple of updates for the South Asia page. First, please add the movie logo. I think you should add <gallery>. Second, according to this very good source, New episodes of S17 are starting from tomorrow. So to the end of the S17 para, pls add After a month of putting the season on hiatus, Hungama resumed airing new episodes from 1 August, 2015. But as a result, XY019 and XY020 were skipped.. We'll have to wait till Monday to find out if new episodes of S05 are starting. → PikaTepig999 6:36 PM, July 31, 2015 (IST) 13:06, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

I've added the movie logo but have hidden the skipped episode info. Can you wait a few more hours to confirm that they did skip XY019 and XY020? The page you linked doesn't show episode titles, just numbers, which aren't most reliable. --Abcboy (talk) 01:44, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
That site has been very reliable in the past. The site uses production codes, with the last two digits for episode number and first one or two digits for Season. Hence 1721 becomes 21nd episode of 17th season. However, if you want, let's wait till the episodes air. → PikaTepig999 11:27 AM, August 1, 2015 (IST) 05:57, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
It's more of the fact numbers don't necessarily correspond (like XY024 or SS033, which depending on who you ask should be in different places under different titles). For example, I wouldn't be at all surprised if your dub moves XY024 somewhere else or skips it entirely. --Abcboy (talk) 06:05, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
That's true. And I think that XY024 will be aired after XY051 or something, Like the US dub order. → PikaTepig999 11:38 AM, August 1, 2015 (IST) 06:08, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
They aired 021 and 022 today and skipped 019 and 020. Hence you can unhide that info. → PikaTepig999 4:34 PM, August 1, 2015 (IST) 11:04, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for adding that! → PikaTepig999 3:26 PM, August 2, 2015 (IST) 09:56, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

(resetting indent) The movie is going to be aired on 22nd August, can that info be added, i saw it on the challenge Pratik_12 Talk 15:32, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Can you provide a better source for that? A picture would be good enough. --Abcboy (talk) 00:45, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
We watched it ourselves on TV. That is why no source required. Well anyway, see this then. Yash Sen 09:43, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
About the image, it has been clicked from the TV and has been cropped. Yash Sen 09:45, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
This one too. → PikaTepig999 3:26 PM, August 2, 2015 (IST) 09:56, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for adding that. Now all other info like skipping of themes, based on Jap version etc. can be added after the movie airs. → PikaTepig999 05:12, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
Not necessary that Hungama TV will do that again about the theme song and Jap. version! Yash Sen 12:51, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

(resetting indent) As we discussed above, today the Hindi dub aired XY023 & 025. XY024 was skipped. Most probably it will be aired as a a part of S18 (if it ever gets dubbed). Is it necessary to update the SA page with XY024 skipping info? I sugget adding it as this: As XY024 was aired out of order in the US dub, Hungama too skipped it during the airing of S17, most probably because it will be aired as a part of S18.PikaTepig999 10:53, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! → PikaTepig999 11:26, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Stage Template

Can you set up a parameter for "Safari Encounter Rate", or something along those lines, in your stage template for use in the Safari stage layout on the split special stage pages? I'm sure adding it in the usage is simple (since we can label a column and just add the extra parameter), but at the same time including it in the template itself might not hurt. CycloneGU (talk) 19:16, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

The only parameters this template requires is NDex number, Pokémon name, and type. Everything is/isn't needed on some stages, so the template changes to adjust. I've added an extra column to User:Abcboy/Pokémon Safari, you can move it around if you want. --Abcboy (talk) 01:30, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

May 10th vs May 10

Hello I've discovered that there is inconsistency in how the as of dates are displayed on the number of article:xxx+ on the niwa articles, some have 10th and some have only 10 which one should I use? Example; on F-Zero Wiki it says: Number of Articles:247+ and on Wars Wiki it says: Number of Articles:556+. Once again which one is correct? --Raltseye (talk) 13:31, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Use "10", not "10th". That appears to be the way most of the pages use it and a brief search indicate that is preferred. --Abcboy (talk) 13:37, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Thank you I will change those now. It is also preferred I guess because it will fit better with 1, 2 and 3 as they otherwise have to be changed to 1st, 2nd and 3rd respectivly. --Raltseye (talk) 13:45, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Sorry forgot to ask this but while we're at it should 04 be preferred before 4? --Raltseye (talk) 13:48, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
"4", not "04". --Abcboy (talk) 13:50, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Thank you that'll be all --Raltseye (talk) 13:51, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Reverted edits on "Pokémon world in relation to the real world"

Hello you recently reverted some of my edits on the page: "Pokémon world in relation to the real world". I just wanted to understand why they were reverted. For example I removed information about Torishima as it stated that it is "Known as the habitat of the albatross" I did not think this information is relevant because it is never stated in the games that it has albatross. You stated that Ho-Oh and Lugia could be the albatross but they don't really look like the species of bird. I removed information about Sakurajima spreading ash over the region but it was added back. Is Mt. Pyre even an active volcano? If Mt. Pyre isn't all of the information in the "notes" section is irrelevant because it doesn't correspond to its game counterpart.

Maybe we just need to be stricter about what should go in the "notes" section for example I removed from Littleroot Town's section information about the US running a Navy base but there isn't a Navy base in Littleroot Town so it's hardly relevant.Ratchet and Clank 1995 (talk) 17:13, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Torishima and Navel Rock are both uninhabited islands upon which species of large birds live. I think I confused Mt. Pyre for the actual volcano in Hoenn, Mt. Chimney, so that one can be removed.
I personally added most of the information for Almia, and I think that most of the notes there should be relevant to the page. The only that may not is Niseko, which has the ski resort connection purely to establish a link between it and the frozen wasteland that is Shiver Camp. I was unfortunately unable to find any frozen wastelands in Hokkaido. --Abcboy (talk) 00:41, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
I guess the ski resort is relevant to its Pokémon counterpart so I'm not going to remove that information. I agree with you that Almia's notes do relate to the Pokémon world so that section is ok. Thanks for the Mt. Pyre reply, I'm going to remove those notes and I somewhat see the albatross relevance to Navel Rock.Ratchet and Clank 1995 (talk) 05:32, 6 August 2015 (UTC)


What's happening with User:Abcboy/Puerto_Blanco and all of those? Any word yet? I've been busy cloning over at a forum, so I've been getting a lot of rare events. Really need to get a couple of projects done here as well. CycloneGU (talk) 17:47, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

I have no idea. I don't think the Editorial Board has yet met this month (or I would seen some other moves/splits done). --Abcboy (talk) 22:55, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Move Reminder Text

"Moves in bold can be taught again at the Move Reminder if forgotten."

That is extremely misleading. All moves the event Pokémon knows can generally be retaught. It suggests that a 2015 Tanabata Jirachi cannot relearn Cosmic Power if forgotten, or Wish for that matter. Better wording is required. CycloneGU (talk) 22:44, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Please speak to SnorlaxMonster about the event-related info. Also, as mentioned at the top of the page, I will be mostly unavailable for the rest of the month. --Abcboy (talk) 07:06, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
The point of the bold is to specifically tag moves that are specially coded as relearnable. It utilizes the same mechanic Egg Moves do to be relearned. It can also apply to level-up moves (although I'm not sure if there are any examples). I've modified it to specify that the moves can be relearned as a special move to help alleviate confusion. --SnorlaxMonster 09:50, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
That's what I meant. The previous wording suggested that only moves in bold could be relearned; bold was already used to indicate special moves specifically that can be relearned only on that event. Something like "Moves in bold are special event-only moves that can be retaught via the Move Relearner" was what I had in mind. Whatever works. =) CycloneGU (talk) 01:32, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Emerald Text Dump

The download link to the Emerald Text Dump seems broken. Could you re-upload it? --Maxim (talk) 10:25, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm currently out of town and thus can't do it for a couple weeks. I downloaded the file previously and will reupload it when I get home. --Abcboy (talk) 05:02, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
I have re-uploaded it to my Dropbox and have changed the link accordingly. --Abcboy (talk) 22:06, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

M02 in India

The movie premiered today. Again, the Japanese version of the movie was aired. The opening and ending themes were again skipped. Many more scenes were cut too. Can you update the page with this? → PikaTepig999 09:51, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Can you also add that new episodes from EP263 are starting from 31st August? Better add this in the past tense so that you dont have to change it again when the episodes air. → PikaTepig999 10:01, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
Since you're not active, I'm gonna ask another admin. → PikaTepig999 08:43, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
I know that you are active by seeing your contributions. Why are you not making these edits? --Yash Sen 16:05, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
This must've fell through the cracks. I'll add it shortly. --Abcboy (talk) 16:22, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks! --Yash Sen 08:36, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

(resetting indent)Hey Abcboy, why call EP262 as the last episode of Master Quest? The "Master Quest" subtitle remains till the last episode of original series. So in my opinion, you should replace the line Starting on August 31, 2015, the channel started airing the remaining Johto episodes, starting the season Pokémon: Advanced. with Starting on August 31, 2015, the channel restarted airing the remaining episodes of the season. The season as well as the Original series completed its initial run on the channel with the airing of Hoenn Alone., then you should remove Pokémon Advanced from the Original series table and then replace the line The Hoenn portion of Pokémon: Advanced debuted on Hungama TV with the airing of Get The Show On The Road on September 16, 2015. with Pokémon: Advanced debuted on Hungama TV with the airing of Get The Show On The Road on September 16, 2015.. Please do it because even though productive wise it is but the subtitle "Master Quest" remains till the last episode of the original series and then in DVD too EP274 is the last episode. And then in that page info about the seasons are according to the DVD episodes not productive wise so please do it! --Yash Sen 13:49, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Bulbapedia is using the production season definitions, especially in contexts where the episodes are being aired according to those seasons. --Abcboy (talk) 16:25, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Since you're an admin...

Could you rollback Arashi's vandalizing of Silver's Weavile? It isn't female, I have the volume right here that says otherwise! Thanks! --BlisseyandtheAquaJets (talk) 20:59, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Just Saw That

Is that template change a temporary thing while waiting for EB approval? I noticed that the locations in the template all just became links to just the name, so that either means it's approved or there's something confusing going on since the template would have a singular use otherwise on only one page (since they currently all anchor to that same one page, making it pointless). CycloneGU (talk) 03:50, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

The split has been approved for Skill, the Main Stages, Expert Stages, Special Stages (intentionally excluding the subpages for more specific Special Stages, as the EB doesn't feel it's necessary to split Special Stages up). However, I can't move the pages as someone went and created redirects for all of the suggested page titles, meaning that after the pages and templates are finalized, someone of a higher rank than me will have to move the stage pages to the final names. I'm finishing up and updating the pages at the moment, so hopefully they can actually be moved within the next day or so. --Abcboy (talk) 04:18, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
If the redirects are deleted, I can even move the pages, but I'm sure it would all be done at once to keep it seamless.
I did do some slight text differences on the newer pages, so be careful to compare the text in the special stages in particular. Hopefully it will be seen later why the split special pages makes sense, but the initial split was indeed necessary for this and it's a good start. I can finally finalize my sidegames layouts and start editing those after I figure out why my LG device driver suddenly stopped working (I can't pull my redemption proofs off my phone, and I am baffled as to why the driver failed). CycloneGU (talk) 04:27, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
I think the mass delete just happened. I can start moving pages, and we can edit information off of the Shuffle page as we confirm everything is transferred over. It's best to do it a little at a time (especially for special stages) since it's so large. Doing sidegames additions will come after it's all done. CycloneGU (talk) 04:33, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
That works too. LOL I'll turn the main stages and expert stages areas into a table of links sort of thing like what's at Pokémon Rumble World. Special stages will stay on the page for now until it's reconstructed. CycloneGU (talk) 04:41, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
The other special stages have been merged into User:Abcboy/Special Stages. Can you check if the text is right? --Abcboy (talk) 06:20, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
I added the bit for Mega Sharpedo in comments (it's out next week in competition land, though with very limited Mega Speedup rewards) and corrected some details on the Try 'em Items stages, including noting the 1 Coin reward was clearly a Wobbuffet gag type of thing. One thing I did there was note that, for instance, 10,001-15,000 win the lowest tier prize. I'm thinking we need to reverse the order of the table to put the best prize first in all cases where there are varied prizes, and have the consolation prize as the last column. Let me think about those tables a bit and I'll work on it in the morning and move the page after verifying the rest of the text. At that point I'll put Special Stages into the table at Pokémon Shuffle, where it's already prepped for entry, as well, then I can give my list of Shuffle Pokémon another batch of updates. Side games data will be added on Pokémon pages starting likely on Monday after the latest Shuffle update, though there may be no update as Mega Sharpedo's stage is already there (we will see, but Carvanha is looking like a good fourth Pokémon like with using Pignite on Emboar). I did notice, at the main page, that updates were not put into the updates table since August 3, so I'll be reviewing all of the pastebin files to confirm everything for that as well. Lots to do! CycloneGU (talk) 06:52, 5 September 2015 (UTC)


The Pokémon Center nurse article is unfit for her specific info. Why not create an article for her since Teala has hers? SatoMew 19:03, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

I think the best option would be to expand and link to her section on List of Contest opponents (Generation IV) from the nurse article if you find that more suitable. There's not enough about her to be sufficiently notable for her own article. --Abcboy (talk) 19:13, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Side Games Layout Samples

Getting ready to (finally!) get these updated onto the Pokémon articles. I asked Glik, but no response yet to these samples. What are your thoughts on them? I'll note that expansion has been done on Rumble U (since consistency was brought up; though I personally thought they were fine without expansion in all cases, I've had to since expand three of them), and I've also put SMALL tags around the bracketed portions in Rumble U like elsewhere in the examples. Otherwise, I think they're ready to go. CycloneGU (talk) 19:54, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

It looks fine. --Abcboy (talk) 19:55, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
Awesome. I know what I'm doing after dinner, then. This will take a while. LOL CycloneGU (talk) 19:56, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Area Pages

I think we need separate tables for 3DS and Mobile. That seems the way to go. We're doing that on Special Stages, after all, and it seems better. CycloneGU (talk) 16:23, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

With the Special Stages, the distribution dates are different and the available stages. The Main Stages are the same between the two games with what are ultimately minor differences. --Abcboy (talk) 16:34, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Even so, when four columns have differing information in them, I'd say it warrants a separate table. Otherwise, it forces users to pick apart what they need in each table. It's the same as, instead of just linking to Leafy Expanse with an anchor link to Lookout Tree on Pokémon pages, we have to add "Leafy Expanse" on the page. Even ignoring that, we have the consistency thing; if we're splitting the tables for Special Stages, we have to split them for main stages as well. CycloneGU (talk) 17:05, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
It would look like this. It's in my opinion far less clear, as you're just drawn to the colorful tables before you read the section header. The reason the Special Stages tables are split is because the order of the events are different, while the Main Stages are in the same order. --Abcboy (talk) 17:23, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
That's exactly what I had in mind. And this is an area page, so I see no problem in expanding that out. It's perfectly clear, to me, that each table corresponds to one of the two versions of the game. What if a third version of the game were to be released for PC? The combined tables would become even more muddled. CycloneGU (talk) 17:56, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Go ahead and split them, I guess. --Abcboy (talk) 18:12, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Future Event?

Zygarde is a Pokémon, not a future event. That notice only applies to events, I think. Isn't there a notice that just says that information may be changing rapidly without labeling the entire article as an event when it's clearly about the species itself? CycloneGU (talk) 18:50, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

I just did the same thing staff did to Volcanion (Pokémon). --Abcboy (talk) 18:54, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
It doesn't just apply to events, it applies to upcoming games, Pokémon, anime series so on, so forth.--ForceFire 04:07, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Openings in other languages

Hi! I saw you added the List of opening themes in French and German today. Before you make it, I'm already creating the list of the European Spanish themes with the translations. I might be able to post it today or tomorrow, okay? Thanks! --Mine4017 (talk) 23:43, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Explorers of Sky in Korean

But if Explorers of Sky was not released in Korean why is there a name for it and why is it on this page? Shouldn't there be some sort of explaination? --Raltseye (talk) 23:58, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

That appears to be the name used by most South Koreans when referring to the game, even though it hasn't been released there. It may have been used in something official, but I'm not sure. --Abcboy (talk) 00:02, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
Shouldn't that be a disclaimer in the in other languages box next to the name using a *? --Raltseye (talk) 00:11, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
The problem is that I don't know where the name came from. The user who added the name didn't give a official source, but searching for it shows that it is the commonly used name for the game. Due to the lack of sourcing, it could justifiably be removed, but I've seen some names for other things added from those sources. --Abcboy (talk) 00:16, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
Yes I see but if we are going to keep the Korean name then I guess that we have to add the Chinese name aswell even though it has not been released in china either for the same reaseon and I think that would be messy to have names of games that does not have an official name. --Raltseye (talk) 00:22, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
When some of the Japanese Pokémon games are released in China, official merchandising uses translated Chinese names. As such, those are considered official. If the Korean name isn't used official, it should be removed. --Abcboy (talk) 00:44, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you I have now removed it :) --Raltseye (talk) 00:48, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon in latin america

Hello I just wanted to know where you found info that the game will be called Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon in latinamerica and not Pokémon mundo megamisterioso which it will in Spain? Just curious since I tried to find a site to state that and nothing found. --Raltseye (talk) 03:28, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

The American English games are marketed and sold in Latin America, so generally the game titles are left untranslated. You can see that from the official site,, if you change your region to Latin America. --Abcboy (talk) 04:00, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
Yes but that's also the case if you choose canadian french where it should display Pokémon Méga Donjon Mystère which it is not not even in the plain text below so my conclusion is that they just skip it for all therefor it is not sure to say that it will be released like Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon in latinamerica --Raltseye (talk) 04:16, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Could you please warn this user?

This user has been adding many Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese names for game-exclusive location without any source and removing or changing many moves and abilities translations, many of them I'm absolutely sure they were called the previous way in the anime, such as Thunder Shock. SatoMew2 and I asked why he/she was adding these things on his/her talk page, but he/she ignored us and kept making edits. Could you please warn him/her? --Mine4017 (talk) 21:28, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

He/she ignored your warning and now edited an ability exclusive to the games and manga that wasn't released in Brazil or Portugal. And by the looks of it, he/she is translating the names him/herself. Can I revert these edits? --Mine4017 (talk) 22:10, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Given the lack of sourcing, feel free to remove the Portuguese names.--Abcboy (talk) 23:09, 6 October 2015 (UTC)


When updating the Number pages for the Hoenn Pokedex updates you are forgetting to remove New from the Generation VI links causing the link to go red. -Tyler53841 (talk) 02:39, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Whoops, sorry. Will fix the affected pages immediately. --Abcboy (talk) 02:40, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Been taking care of the ones I was finding. -Tyler53841 (talk) 02:42, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Also if you can do this as a small favor the User LucasN10‎ has been over-editing List of Brazilian Portuguese Pokémon themes which as of this message is 9 times. -Tyler53841 (talk) 02:46, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

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