Talk:Waterfall (move)

I'd think Rayquaza gets the strongest Waterfall, because of the 150 Attack (higher than 125, for sure), but that's just me. :P TinaTheKirlia ♥ 18:07, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

...Waterfall is different from the other moves in that this one doesn't flinch... ht14 01:32, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

If you traded a Gen 1 to Gen 2 game, would it be allowed as it knows waterfall? Becuase it wasnt a HM them turned into one.--Davidaipom 15:22, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Waterfall exists in both generations, so it doesn't matter if a Pokémon has Waterfall in Gen II and you want to trade it back to Gen I. The same is true of Bite, even though Bite became Dark type in Gen II. Yenreb 19:58, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Waterfall in HGSS

You do not need it to go back down a waterfall. - unsigned comment from Atomic Boom22 (talkcontribs)

Agreed. --veggieman (leave a message after the click?) 00:34, 7 August 2010 (UTC)


Does Mewtwo learn Waterfall? This page says it does, but this page says it doesn't. Which one is right? Missingno. Master wants YOU! Join the Order of the Glitch! (my talk page) 19:19, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Mewtwo's article is correct, according to various other sources. — THE TROM — 20:08, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Move appearance in other generations section

I think we should remove the bad image tag from that section. Sure, the Generation I animation is blurry, but so are a lot of others – yet this is the first time I have seen the tag being used for this purpose. Since no one else saw an issue with the other move pages afflicted by blurry Generation I animations, why this?

I'll remove it if others agree, or otherwise add that tag to *all* other Generation I move pages with blurry images. Thoughts? Haxorus 13:41, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

I agree with you on this. The image looks fine to me.--ForceFire 13:54, 3 April 2012 (UTC)

Trivia worthy?

I was thinking of putting something about how a few descriptions say something about Waterfall being fast, but it doesn't have an increased priority. Would that be Trivia worthy? Zarthga (talk) 08:26, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

those moves aren't variations

With the exception of dark pulse none of those moves that are listed as variations are actually variations. dark pulse's secondary effect has a 20% chance while scald, lava plume etc have a 30% chance.0danmaster0 (talk) 20:23, 6 June 2013 (UTC)

Doesn't Alomomola get Waterfall too?

I was going over a list of which Water Pokemon didn't learn Waterfall, and as I went down the 'Dex comparing Pokemon, I noticed that Alomomola wasn't on the page for Waterfall. But I'm pretty sure it can learn the move. Just wanna check with someone else to verify before just adding it in. - unsigned comment from Coronation (talkcontribs)

Looks like there was an oversight. Added Alomomola. --Super goku (talk) 01:17, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Special in Generation III

Playing generation three, I noticed that an opponent using Light Screen (Doubles *Special Defence*) appeared to half the damage by waterfall. I have also noticed that my Gyarados which has a much higher Attack than Special Attack seems to do more damage with a similarly powered move to waterfall while he gets STAB from waterfall, yet waterfall is doing less damage in most cases. I have added this to the main page accordingly. Pokepro97 (talk) 15:01, 14 April 2014 (UTC).

Waterfall was special in Gen 3 and prior, as were all Water-type moves, since whether a move was physical or special was determined by type until Gen 4. Which moves were changed are already listed here. Miles (talk) 15:05, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
The only move which is notable on this matter is Bite, being physical type in G1, special type in G2 and G3, and reclassified as physical move in G4. Eridanus (talk) 16:05, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
Okay, the fact I was unaware of this after a lot of time on this wiki shows it isn't very clearly mentioned, I'm sure its not under the article on Type, which it should be. Correct me if I'm wrong, Pokepro97 (talk) 01:29, 15 April 2014 (UTC). Edit: Nevermind, it appears to be there. Sorry for that confusion, Pokepro97 (talk) 01:31, 15 April 2014 (UTC).
From the Type page: All games before Generation IV also made a distinction between physical and special moves based on their type; as of Generation IV, this is dependent on the move itself. --It's Funktastic~!話してください 02:59, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
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