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== How is this not a plausible origin? ==

''"Its shut eyes may also represent {{wp|envy}}, one of the {{wp|cardinal sins}}. In part two of {{wp|Dante|Dante's}} ''{{wp|Divine Comedy}}'', ''{{wp|Purgatorio}}'', the punishment for being envious was to have your eyes sewn shut with wire."'' 

Not only are its eyes are slit and closed it is also coincidentally is based off of the see-no-evil monkey, which is similar to the greed punishment. - [[User:050294|050294]] 05:54, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:It's still too far fetched in my opinion. It's most likely a coincidence. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 06:17, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
::As stated on your talk, the monkey motif was actually based on a mix of christian, in the case  of the monkeys the cardinals, and shintoism lore. - [[User:050294|050294]] 06:24, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Looking at more Envy info, doesn't it seem Hiyakkie's dreads are sorta like Envy's hair [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Jacques_Callot%2C_The_Seven_Deadly_Sins_-_Envy.JPG here?] I always thought Hiyakkie's dreads reminded me a bit of snakes. [[Typhlosion|<span style="color:#C00;"><sup>★</sup></span>]][[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]][[Flygon|<span style="color:#C00;"><sup>★</sup></span>]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]] 08:44, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:::Oh also, found out that "envy" in Japanese is oka'''yaki'''. Surely it's not just a mere coincidence...[[Typhlosion|<span style="color:#C00;"><sup>★</sup></span>]][[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]][[Flygon|<span style="color:#C00;"><sup>★</sup></span>]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]] 08:47, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
The sin envy is also associated with the {{wp|Leviathan}}, a sea monster associated with water.''"St. Thomas Aquinas described Leviathan as the demon of envy, first in punishing the corresponding sinners"'' - [[User:050294|050294]] 09:09, 18 November 2010 (UTC) - [[User:050294|050294]] 09:09, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

I believe it is based on the monkey motif and hippies. {{unsigned|Mewtwomaster}}

== Artwork ==

Simipour's artwork has since been corrected.  See corrected artwork at the Pokedex here: http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokedex/unova.  Shouldn't the image be updated with the corrected version?
[[User:CoolDudeAl|CoolDudeAl]] 06:04, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

== Simipour is actually blind/has white pupils ==

So the origin section says that its eyes are closed to represent "see no evil" of the wise monkeys. While the reference is correct, Simipour's eyes aren't actually closed. Instead, Simipour may be blind, or at least has white pupils.

For proof of this, check out this video at around 0:28 and just keep watching. You'll see that Simipour blinks repeatedly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXn3KZPB1vg

I just wanted to bring this up to provide evidence before making the change on the page, or if someone else wants to do it, feel free. {{unsigned|Nol238}}

:Came here because I was shocked that the description part of this page doesn't mention exactly this glaring fact. I figured it might be in the Trivia section, but there it's instead even described as "having its eyes closed", which is worse that not describing it at all in my opinion. --[[User:Saiph charon|Saiph charon]] ([[User talk:Saiph charon|talk]]) 16:41, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

== Teapot Origin? ==

In all artwork, Simipour has one arm on it's hip, with the other held out the side - as in the nursery rhyme 'I'm a little teapot'; possibly referenced in the 'pour' part of it's name? Given both Simisage & Simisear keep the same pose throughout artwork/sprites/models, is it possible they have some nursery-rhyme connection too? [[User:SJ|SJ]] ([[User talk:SJ|talk]]) 11:40, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
:Unlikely, as its Japanese name has nothing to do with pouring, so the pose is just coincidental to the English name.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#00A1E9">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#59C2F1">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#BF004F">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#D5598C">ire</span>]] 16:48, 4 July 2021 (UTC)