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== Dream World abilities ==

Do they also count for the loss of exclusiveness? Say for example, Slakoth's Truant is available as a DW ability for Aianto, should the note "Prior to Generation V" be included for Slakoth? --[[User:Kaoz|Kaoz]] 19:58, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
== Past signature abilities ==
Most of past signature abilities lost that status in Generation V. Only [[Stench (ability)|tw]][[Sand Stream (ability)|o]] did so in Generation IV. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] 17:23, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

== Template ==

I am tired of hovering, we need a template like [[Template:SignatureMove|the one]] on the [[signature move]] page. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] <sup>([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]])</sup> 23:43, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
* Made it myself, but Zen Mode is not working. I am not good with templates. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] <sup>([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]])</sup> 23:10, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

== A Question ==

Why are the Abilities being linked to as moves? [[User:Reshi643|Reshi643]] ([[User talk:Reshi643|talk]]) 23:11, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
* Because I messed up the template. It's fixed now. [[User:TorchicBlaziken|TorchicBlaziken]] <sup>([[User_talk:TorchicBlaziken|talk]]•[[Special:Contributions/TorchicBlaziken|edits]])</sup> 00:11, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

== Problem with the template ==

There is a problem, I see only one ability and not two for the Flabébé line, will anyone fix this? --[[User:Cinday123|<span style="color:pink">Cinday123</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Cinday123|<span style="color:lightblue">Talk</span>]])''</small> 22:23, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
::There are both abilities listed if you edit the page, but forever reason this one doesn't work like Signature Moves does. It's a question about editing the template, I think. You might have to go directly to the template's discussion page, if that's even a thing. --[[User:Kianglo|<span style="color:#6900FF"><b>KiANGLO</b></span>]] <sup>''([[User talk:Kianglo|<span style="color:#cc00aa">TALK</span>]])''</sup> 00:14, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
:::In my experience, staff can be slow at getting around to updating protected templates. Luckily, since it's the current gen, it's easy enough to hack a fix up. (Even if it weren't the current gen, though, I'd have just written out the code for those rows.) [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 01:36, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

== Ultra Beasts ==

We need to redefine what "Signature Move/Ability" means. Currently, it's only limited to evolutionary families, but clear "groups" of Pokemon like the Ultra Beasts should qualify. {{Unsigned|Kungfuyu}}
:Yeah, I think we should clarify it; I sense an edit war starting. The only reason I added it in the first place was because it said so [[Beast Boost|here]]. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 17:57, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
::I feel like ultra beasts should qualify as well (though that's probably obvious given my prior edit)--they're clearly a related group of Pokémon and they are the only ones to have the ability. --[[User:Felthry|Felthry]] ([[User talk:Felthry|talk]]) 21:47, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
:::[[Signature move]] considers the Swords of Justice to have a signature move among themselves even though they are not evolutionarily related, so I think this is a similar situation and the UBs' Beast Boost can be considered a signature Ability. However, we need a satisfactory way to draw a line (on both articles) so that actual, legitimate groups qualify and arbitrary ones don't qualify (like starters + elemental monkeys for Overgrow/Blaze/Torrent, or butterflies and moths for Quiver Dance). I'm not sure of the best wording to use to draw that line. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 17:35, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
::::Here's my two cents... Starters are a maybe, the only thing keeping me from saying "yes" is that they're scattered across every generation. Butterflies and moths are a definite no - they're not really directly linked.

::::Another thing: I think that if an ability is an ability of one Pokemon and then a hidden ability for another, it should still be here, for example Cloud Nine. Just a suggestion. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#98CC00">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#FFC37D">onkey</span>]] 18:28, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::Nah, I was saying that both of those arbitrary groups I named are examples of what would ''not'' count, because they're arbitrary. (The monkeys disqualify the starter group.)
:::::If we were still back in Gen V I might agree with you on Hidden Abilities, but they're so easily achievable now that I don't personally think HAs should be treated differently than standard Abilities. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 18:34, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
::::::Wait, why would starters not count? --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#98CC00">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#FFC37D">onkey</span>]] 18:38, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::::Starters aren't the only Pokemon with Overgrow/Blaze/Torrent. Pansage/Pansear/Panpour and their evolutions have them too, and that's what disqualifies it. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 19:01, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
::::::::Oh, that makes sense. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#98CC00">Celad</span>]][[User_talk:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#FFC37D">onkey</span>]] 19:10, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

== How do I add protean? ==

Protean was Kecleon's signature ability in Generation 5. I tried to add it to the table, but it didn't show up. What do I type to get it to show up? [[User:Sumwun|sumwun]] ([[User talk:Sumwun|talk]]) 05:47, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
:No it wasn't; Protean didn't exist in gen 5. Like Plusle & Ferrothorn, Kecleon didn't have a hidden ability until gen 6. [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]]) 06:16, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

==Signature abilities only in X and Y==
Mega Pinsir, Tyrunt-Tyrantrum and Amaura-Aurorus have a signature ability (Aerilate, Strong Jaw and Refrigerate, respectively) in X and Y, but not in the other games. Maybe you should edit the template adding an asterisk with "Only in".--[[User:Snorlite|Snorlite]] ([[User talk:Snorlite|talk]]) 18:06, 13 February 2017 (UTC)