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The chance is not 8/65536 (1/8192), but '''8 in 65536''', or '''8/(65536-8)''' (or 1/819'''1'''). That makes the chance 0.0001220852154804053% instead of 0.0001220703125%. Not much of a difference, but if such an insanely precise percentage is given, it should be accurate. Also the 2<sup>-10</sup> isn't right, 8/65536 is 2<sup>-13</sup>. I'm correcting this both here and on [[Personality value]] --[[User:En-Cu-Kou|En-Cu-Kou]] 20:20, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
The chance is not 8/65536 (1/8192), but '''8 in 65536''', or '''8/(65536-8)''' (or 1/819'''1'''). That makes the chance 0.0001220852154804053% instead of 0.0001220703125%. Not much of a difference, but if such an insanely precise percentage is given, it should be accurate. Also the 2<sup>-10</sup> isn't right, 8/65536 is 2<sup>-13</sup>. I'm correcting this both here and on [[Personality value]] --[[User:En-Cu-Kou|En-Cu-Kou]] 20:20, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
:Well if the chance of something is '''1 in 10''' it mathematically '''IS''' a 10% chance (which is 1/10. '''1in10= 10%= 0.1= 1/10'''). ''You'' are saying that '''1 in 10''' is 1/(10-1) which simplifies into 1/9 (just like you said 1/(8192-1) simplifies to 1/8191) ) which is 10.11..% (1/9= 10.11..%= 0.11..). '''10%≠10.11..%'''. So ''you'' are also saying that if something is a 1 in 3 chance it is a 1/(3-1) chance (which simplifies to 1/2,  1/2 is 50%--1/3 is 33.33%). '''If I have a jar with 3 different colored (red,pink,blue) marbles the chance of getting a pink is 1/3 (33.33%), blue is 1/3 (33.33%), and red is 1/3 (33.33%). All three percents add up to 100% and fractions add up 1 (3/3=1). If each was 50% like ''you'' were saying it would add up to 150% and 1.5 (3/2=1.5).''' And I was gonna round those decimal numbers on those pages, I just forgot. --[[User:Sivart345|<span style="color:#4DC000">Sivart</span>]][[User talk:Sivart345|<span style="color:#00FF60">3</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|<span style="color:#00FFA0">4</span>]][[User:Firestorm|<span style="color:#7FFFF7">'''5'''</span>]] 22:47, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
:Well if the chance of something is '''1 in 10''' it mathematically '''IS''' a 10% chance (which is 1/10. '''1in10= 10%= 0.1= 1/10'''). ''You'' are saying that '''1 in 10''' is 1/(10-1) which simplifies into 1/9 (just like you said 1/(8192-1) simplifies to 1/8191) ) which is 10.11..% (1/9= 10.11..%= 0.11..). '''10%≠10.11..%'''. So ''you'' are also saying that if something is a 1 in 3 chance it is a 1/(3-1) chance (which simplifies to 1/2,  1/2 is 50%--1/3 is 33.33%). '''If I have a jar with 3 different colored (red,pink,blue) marbles the chance of getting a pink is 1/3 (33.33%), blue is 1/3 (33.33%), and red is 1/3 (33.33%). All three percents add up to 100% and fractions add up 1 (3/3=1). If each was 50% like ''you'' were saying it would add up to 150% and 1.5 (3/2=1.5). And I was gonna round those decimal numbers on those pages, I just forgot. --[[User:Sivart345|<span style="color:#4DC000">Sivart</span>]][[User talk:Sivart345|<span style="color:#00FF60">3</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|<span style="color:#00FFA0">4</span>]][[User:Firestorm|<span style="color:#7FFFF7">'''5'''</span>]] 22:47, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
::Nobody agrees with me? [[User:Sivart345|<span style="color:#4DC000">Sivart</span>]][[User talk:Sivart345|<span style="color:#00FF60">3</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|<span style="color:#00FFA0">4</span>]][[User:Firestorm|<span style="color:#7FFFF7">'''5'''</span>]] 19:02, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
::Nobody agrees with me? Wow, I just realized that when I wrote the chance of shininess in the pages (before En-Cu-Kou changed them)  that I ''did'' write 2<sup>-10</sup> instead of 2<sup>-13</sup> (even though I knew it was the latter one) (guess he was right in changing that).  [[User:Sivart345|<span style="color:#4DC000">Sivart</span>]][[User talk:Sivart345|<span style="color:#00FF60">3</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Sivart345|<span style="color:#00FFA0">4</span>]][[User:Firestorm|<span style="color:#7FFFF7">'''5'''</span>]] 19:02, 15 March 2009 (UTC)


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