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== Sanzaru ==

Yes I know this is speculative but I kinda thought of this

look at Hiyappu and how it has its eyes closed 

[[File:511Pansage.png|right|thumb|See no evil]]

now look at Baoppu and its pose..it looks like it wants you to speak up

[[File:513Pansear.png|right|thumb|Hear no evil]]

and Yanappu its mouth is open...but is there sound coming out? 

[[File:515Panpour.png|right|thumb|Speak no evil]]

http://www.aspencountry.com/assets/product_images/product_lib/31000-31999/31655.jpg

doesnt it look similar to the {{wp|Three wise monkeys}}? maybe it could be added to the origins?

sorry for bothering if not..[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 15:37, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
:That's an interesting thought.--[[User:Pokelova|<span style="color:#DAA520">''Poké''</span>]][[User talk:Pokelova|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">lova!</span>]] 18:07, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
::Thank you, I looked at them and I knew it reminded me of somethingalso If you look their tails resemble card symbols Yanappu (heart) Baoppu (Ace) and Hiyappu (spade) but that's not really trivia [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 18:28, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

could it be that the monkeys tail indicates their number look baoppu has one end yanappu has two ends and hiyappu has three like a clover isn't it?[[User:Badwolf1234|Badwolf1234]] 04:07, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== name origin? ==

When I first saw Hiyappu (ヒヤップ) I mistakenly read its name as Hiyassu (I feel embarrassed, lol), so my first thought of the origin of the name was the verb 冷やす (hiyasu) ''to cool, to chill''. It seems I wasn't far off, because with a quick little dictionary research I found 冷や (hiya) ''cool water/{{wp|sake}}''. I assume at this point 冷や + ''ape'' (as speculated in the Yanappu article) is a good guess, so I'll add it to the article.
:Um my Appu = ape line wasn't really true...it would be eipu if it was ape...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 23:35, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
::Yeah, that does make sense... But it's the best we have for now, lol.
::Oops, I see I forgot to sign my previous post. [[User:BlackySully|<span style="color:#f8d858;">㊰</span><span style="color:#000000;">'''<span style="color:#d01818;">ブ</span>ラ<sub>ッ</sub>キー<span style="color:#d01818;">シ</span><sub>ュ</sub>リー''']]</span> 00:05, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

== How is this not a plausible origin? ==

''"Its shut eyes may also represent {{wp|envy}}, one of the {{wp|cardinal sins}}. In part two of {{wp|Dante|Dante's}} ''{{wp|Divine Comedy}}'', ''{{wp|Purgatorio}}'', the punishment for being envious was to have your eyes sewn shut with wire."'' 

Not only are its eyes are slit and closed it is also coincidentally is based off of the see-no-evil monkey, which is similar to the greed punishment. - [[User:050294|050294]] 05:51, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
:It seems plausible enough to me. It's rare that Pokémon is based on only a single origin. "the punishment for the envious is to have their eyes sewn shut with wire because they have gained sinful pleasure from seeing others brought low." sounds basically the same as "see no evil", so I say it's worth keeping up. [[Typhlosion|<span style="color:#C00;"><sup>★</sup></span>]][[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]][[Flygon|<span style="color:#C00;"><sup>★</sup></span>]] [[User_talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]] 06:16, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

== Move to Panpour ==

[http://files.droplr.com/files/19310907/HMun.Photo12291808_1.jpg We have more confirmation.]--'''[[User:Immewnity|<span style="color:#88AADD">''immewnity''</span>]][[User talk:Immewnity|<span style="color:#627DB7">the</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Immewnity|<span style="color:#335577">mew</span>]]''' 01:38, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
:As I said on the talk page for what will soon be the Pansear article, agreed 100%.  <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 03:48, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

== Ahuizotl ==

Can someone edit the wikipedia link for Ahuizotl to link to Ahuizotl (creature)? The default for that goes to a king named after the creature, not the creature itself. [[User:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:red">Phantom</span>]]♫[[User talk:Phantomjunkie|<span style="color:black">Junkie</span>]] 16:28, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

==Notable Trivia?==
Panpour and its evolution are the only Pokemon to learn Scald via level-up, but ironically Panpour's Chinese name 冷水猴 means "''Cold Water'' Monkey"! Does this seem like a notable trivia? Personally I find it pretty interesting...{{unsigned|KingKairos}}
:To be fair, its Japanese name also contains ''cool water'', so it was probably intentional. ----<font color="#990000" face="DFKaiSB">'''神智の</font>[[User:神奇超龍|<font color="#2B547E" face="DFKaiSB">超龍</font>]]「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|對話]]'''」''' 08:47, 5 June 2011 (UTC)

==Should add this==
In [[BW005|Triple Leaders, Triple Threats!]] Ash's Pokedex said that Panpour lived in the forest in acient times then it's body changed so it can live near water. [[User:Grabbergirl|Pokemon FTW!!!!]] ([[User talk:Grabbergirl|talk]]) 20:43, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
:It's already in ''In the anime'' section. Also, your signature must resemble your username in some way so please change it.--'''[[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#AB0909">電</font><font color="#063A73">禅</font>]]<small>[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#fff" face="Tahoma"><span style="text-shadow:#000 0.2em 0.1em 0.1em; class=texhtml">Den Zen</span></font>]]</small>''' 21:02, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

==Panpour and Simipour actually have white eyes==
While evolving my Panpour in X today, I watched both my Panpour and Simipour blink. Noticing something weird, I went to my Pokedex and looked at their animation more.

Their eyes are not closed. The top half of their "eyes" are actually their eyelid, and, in X and Y, is a slightly different color than their eyes. When they blink, their off-white eyelids cover their white eyes and open to reveal the same white eyes.

As it is listed as "black" in the entry, I will correct this.

-[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 04:08, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
:I think you're mistaken. I checked my game as well as Pokedex 3D Pro. Both of its eyelids are exactly the same color. Yes, they move, but that's so it can express its emotions. They are closed. All Pansage, Simisage, Pansear, and Simisear all close their eyes the same way Panpour and Simipour do (albeit slightly different looking). [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 05:09, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
::In Pokedex 3D Pro, maybe (I can't say), but in my X it is apparent (to me) that the eyelid (top half) is a slightly different color than the eye (bottom half). It's off-white (the top is) so it may be hard to notice at first. Keep looking.

::The eyes are NOT closed... that's why it observably blinks. :|

::It would actually tie in more to Panpour/Simipour and the other monkey's motif of the three wise monkeys if so. Whitened eyes are a symbol of blindness, tying into the "See no evil" thing even better.

::I'll test in Pokemon-Amie in a bit to see if this changes. 
::-[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 07:40, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

::Off-white color of the eyelids is even more noticeable in Pokemon-Amie. 
::-[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of SoulSilver]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 07:45, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

::Downloaded the images of Panpour and Simipour and sampled the colors of the eye and eyelid in Paint Tool SAI. Seems that each eye and eyelid is its own shade of off-white, with the eyelids being slightly more white than the eyes. Given that it looks different in X and Y, I am not sure what to make of this.
::-[[User:Mackinz|Mackinz of X]] ([[User talk:Mackinz|talk]]) 16:41, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

:::Adding to the blindness image, Panpour's hands are reaching out (like a blind person's). -- [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 21:12, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

::::Since it's pretty much confirmed, should the article be changed to include this (that its eyes are open)? -- [[User:Pringles|Pringles]] 23:11, 30 November 2013 (UTC)