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You've been entirely too far corrupted by English pronunciation. It is true, that once upon a time, the English long '''a''' was really a long '''a''' (say f'''a'''ther. Now stretch that vowel, without changing its quality, and you get close to what a ''real'' long '''a''' is.) But, the power of sound change changed [a:] to [eI], which is its present value. (If you want to learn more, read up on the [[wp:Great Vowel Shift|Great Vowel Shift]].) - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 09:53, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC) | You've been entirely too far corrupted by English pronunciation. It is true, that once upon a time, the English long '''a''' was really a long '''a''' (say f'''a'''ther. Now stretch that vowel, without changing its quality, and you get close to what a ''real'' long '''a''' is.) But, the power of sound change changed [a:] to [eI], which is its present value. (If you want to learn more, read up on the [[wp:Great Vowel Shift|Great Vowel Shift]].) - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 09:53, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC) | ||
Only the sound in 'father' isn't a long a, it's an 'ah' sound. | Only the sound in 'father' isn't a long a, it's an 'ah' sound. <small>- ''unsigned comment from {{u|Blackjack Gabbiani}} ([[User talk:Blackjack Gabbiani|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Blackjack Gabbiani|contribs]]){{ #if: |  {{{2}}} |}}''</small> | ||
Only in English (and a few other languages that happen to have had the same sound shifts) would a long '''a''' (and certainly not long '''['''a''']''', although long '''/'''a'''/''' you may have a case) be pronounced [eI]. The International Phonetic Association definition of a long [a] is what I'm talking about, and it is remarkably close to the sound in f'''a'''ther, as well as Juns'''ā'''. (And if an '''ah''' sound is [a:], then how is the exclamatory '''ah''' pronounced? [a:] as well? Don't think so... That's why there's a phonetic alphabet for describing sounds without relying on certain pronounciations of certain words in English (which varies by region anyway).) - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 12:48, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC) | Only in English (and a few other languages that happen to have had the same sound shifts) would a long '''a''' (and certainly not long '''['''a''']''', although long '''/'''a'''/''' you may have a case) be pronounced [eI]. The International Phonetic Association definition of a long [a] is what I'm talking about, and it is remarkably close to the sound in f'''a'''ther, as well as Juns'''ā'''. (And if an '''ah''' sound is [a:], then how is the exclamatory '''ah''' pronounced? [a:] as well? Don't think so... That's why there's a phonetic alphabet for describing sounds without relying on certain pronounciations of certain words in English (which varies by region anyway).) - [[User:Zhen Lin|振霖]]<sub>[[User talk:Zhen Lin|T]]</sub> 12:48, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC) | ||