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How important is this character? Seriously, it's only a giant Pokemon. May as well make one for the giant {{p|Caterpie}}... [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#D5AA00"><sup>''ht''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#C0C0C0"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 16:12, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

:Well, Nero's generally considered to meet the character of the day criteria in his own right.  --[[User:Shiningpikablu252|Shiningpikablu252]] 16:58, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

== Okay, what happened? ==

Did Nero swallow the Master Ball or did he just play with it? I'm hearing two different things here. Did he swallow it or not? --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 23:41, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
:It's kinda up in the air. He played with it with his tongue then swam away  still with it on his tongue. We never actually saw him swallow it on-screen. [[User:Reign|Reign]] 00:26, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

== Candidate for deletion/This Pokémon should be deleted. ==

I'm putting this Pokémon as a candidate for deletion because it appears for only one episode, though it was used a lot for one episode and is majorly involved in that episode, so has other wild Pokémon such as the evil Togepi in ''[[DP142]]'', who don't get, (and in this case as well), or deserve a page. Other wild Pokémon don't get a page as well who were both important and unlike Nero, in multiple episodes such as the evil Malamar in ''[[XY019|A Conspiracy to Conquer!]]'' and ''[[XY054]]'' who get [[Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime|this page]]. Plus it was made in Jan 2009, where I presume the criteria for pages on Bulbapedia wasn't as strict. No-one would make this page in the current day, 6 years later. - [[User:StephenWalker97|StephenWalker97]] ([[User talk:StephenWalker97|talk]]) 18:40, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
:I disagree with your opinion. Bulbapedia is a wiki about Pokémon, and this has to be deleted? I know you have a point, because many editors will not edit this in the future. But you might know, this might be an article of the day in the future, or reappear in another episode. You can request to merge it with another page, but if it is about deletion, I disagree. [[User:Pokéfan95|ThePokémonFan]][[User talk:Pokéfan95|Since1995]] 12:05, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
::I agree with Pokéfan95 here, although I see both points and I think both sides have valid arguments. I don't think the page should be deleted entirely though because Nero is essentially a [[character of the day]]. The [[Bulbapedia:Manual of style/Anime#Notability requirements|anime manual of style's notability requirements]] say that in rare cases, if a Pokémon itself is the COD and not its Trainer, then the Pokémon can have its own page. The Togepi from DP142 wasn't as integral the overall plot of the episode as much as Nero was in this one, but, for example, the [[Pink Butterfree]] was important enough for its own page because it was the reason [[Ash's Butterfree]] ended up being released. As to why Malamar hasn't gotten its own page yet, it's because it's a recurring character and has only appeared in two episodes thus far. Assuming it will return later on (which it almost certainly will), it will probably get its own page then. [[User:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''AGG''</span>]][[User talk:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''RON''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|<span style="color:#444444;">''989''</span>]] 23:12, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
:::Watch the almost end of XY019, and you will see that Malamar said that he will return. [[User:Pokéfan95|ThePokémonFan]][[User talk:Pokéfan95|Since1995]] 02:30, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
::::Try to keep this about the page in question. As for Malamar, it does have a section [[Recurring wild Pokémon in the anime#Malamar|here]] and if the Editorial Board decides it deserves its own page, one [[User:Chosen/Sandbox/Malamar (anime)|exists]] in the Userspace. [[User:Adamws|Adamws]] ([[User talk:Adamws|talk]]) 03:05, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
::::I also agree that this page shouldn't be deleted with the reasons stated by Aggron 989. [[User:Animaltamer7|Animaltamer7]]04:51, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
:::::From what I remember from years ago (and I could've sworn was talked about on this talk page), Nero is considered a Character of the Day, so it gets an article.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#AB2813">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#C87365">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#26649C">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#729ABF">ire</span>]] 05:15, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
::::::To what Force Fire said, see the first comment. As was briefly discussed, Nero is a CotD and thus deserves its own page. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#AB2813"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#00A000"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 14:31, 8 April 2015 (UTC)

== How about if this article will be moved to {{redlink|Nero (Whiscash)}}? ==

This new title might make the article more specific. Maybe users might think this is a human, not a Pokémon. Any other opinions? --~~[[User:Pokéfan95|ThePokémonFan]][[User talk:Pokéfan95|Since1995]]~~-- 08:12, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
:I personally disagree, but I don't hate the idea. I just feel like it's unnecessary because the parentheses in article titles are used to differentiate between articles that would otherwise have had the same name. All of the Pokémon species pages have the (Pokémon) addition because there are TCG cards and sometimes special anime appearances that would also have the Pokémon's name as their title. As far as I know, there aren't any other pages on Bulbapedia named "Nero" to confuse this one with. [[User:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''AGG''</span>]][[User talk:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''RON''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|<span style="color:#444444;">''989''</span>]] 09:57, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
::Oops, I must say "How about if this article will be moved to Nero (Whiscash)" instead of "How about if this article will be moved to Nero (Pokémon). Because of that, I changed the section title. If it is Nero (Pokémon), then users may think that Nero is a Pokémon species. I know there aren't other pages on Bulbapedia named "Nero", but it is still possible to be confused that Nero is a human. Also, I think I will recommend a redirect page named {{redlink|Whiscash (AG075)}}, but I know someone will disagree, because no one will use that redirect. 

::So any opinions, accepted (of course). --~~[[User:Pokéfan95|ThePokémonFan]][[User talk:Pokéfan95|Since1995]]~~-- 10:48, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
:::The page shouldn't be moved. There are other pages of nicknamed Pokémon, such as [[Exbo]], that don't have anything else in their titles. I also think that a redirect isn't needed. There are links on the [[Whiscash (disambiguation)]] page, the page for [[Whiscash (Pokémon)#Nero|Whiscash]], and any pages having to do with the episode he appears in. I think that all bases are covered. [[User:Adamws|Adamws]] ([[User talk:Adamws|talk]]) 19:16, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
::::Oops, I forgot about [[Exbo]], [[Togebo]] and others. Ignore this talk instead. I will close this talk. Thanks for reminding, Adamws! 

::::--~~[[User:Pokéfan95|ThePokémonFan]][[User talk:Pokéfan95|Since1995]]~~-- 02:31, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

== Can it just kept as a Character of the Day? ==

Considering it has name, personality and other characteristics that differentiates it from other Whiscash, can't it just be kept as a character of day rather than deleting the article out right? --[[User:Proto|Proto]] ([[User talk:Proto|talk]]) 18:12, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
:I think we've come to a general consensus not to delete it. I'm not sure why the deletion notice is still on the page. [[User:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''AGG''</span>]][[User talk:Aggron989|<span style="color:#858585;">''RON''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Aggron989|<span style="color:#444444;">''989''</span>]] 22:09, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
::I'm pretty sure that an administrator has to remove the notice if they're sure that the page is staying. [[User:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Patty</span>]][[User talk:Pattyman|<span style="color:orange">Man</span>]] 23:35, 10 April 2015 (UTC)