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==Create==
So, why isn't there anything here? You could just put the basic stuff that is known about N, and a good picture, lock it, and that would make sure it's not flooded with speculation. I just feel like it seems very odd to have [[Bel]] and [[Cheren]] but not N. --[[User:ArcLumin|ArcLumin]] 23:12, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:[[User:Umeko/N|We have an article on him with known information]]. But not enough for a main space article. --[[User:PsychicRider|<span style="color:#78C850;">'''Psy'''</span>]][[User talk:PsychicRider|<sub style="color:#F85888;">'''ライダー'''</sub>]]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|<span style="color:#C4E673;">'''☮'''</span>]]'' 23:15, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Ah. Hadn't noticed it, it doesn't come up very high on a site search. --[[User:ArcLumin|ArcLumin]] 23:16, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
:BP is having users create BW articles in their userspaces before being moved into the mainspace, which may explain that. --[[User:PsychicRider|<span style="color:#78C850;">'''Psy'''</span>]][[User talk:PsychicRider|<sub style="color:#F85888;">'''ライダー'''</sub>]]''[[Special:Contributions/PsychicRider|<span style="color:#C4E673;">'''☮'''</span>]]'' 23:22, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
::Makes sense. Although there may be conflicting articles when BW gets released. Oh well, it's not a big deal. --[[User:ArcLumin|ArcLumin]] 23:26, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

==Missing Battle==
You're missing a battle between Raimon City and the final match. I fought him in the Magnetic Cave and he used a team including Giar and Denchura's pre-evo. Wish I could give you more but that's what I remember. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] 02:59, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

== Legendaries ==

-does a double take at that- um, shouldn't there be some trivia on his article about him being the only trainer not part of some battle facility to use Legendary Pokémon against the player or something?--[[User:Darknesslover5000|Darknesslover5000]] 05:38, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
:Well there is [[Greevil]]..but that doesn't count now does it? [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 05:42, 2 October 2010 (UTC)


== To settle it once and for all! ==
Like --The Great Butler said, there is another missing battle with N which takes place at route 6, in the cave. His team is: [[Gantoru]] lv. 28, [[Bachuru]] lv. 28, [[Giaru]] lv. 28 and [[Tesshido]] lv. 28. Here is a video of the battle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehV6YGzcPJc&feature=related. Now could Someone PLEASE add this to the article? [[User:TheBlackPokemonMaster]]
:You have to understand that we need not only the Pokemon he uses, but their entire movesets, too.  We'll get to it when we get to it.  I'm almost there in my game, so I'll do it then if someone doesn't beat me to it. <span style="border: 2px dotted #FFBBDD;">[[User:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;">梅子</span>]][[User talk:Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sup>❀</sup></span>]][[Special:Contributions/Umeko|<span style="color:#FF99CC;"><sub>✿</sub></span>]]</span> 18:45, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

== Champion? ==

It's never said in the game if he ever won this title. It seems he only battled Adeku and did not battle the Elite Four before and that he didn't want to be a Champion, as he wanted to make every trainer release their Pokémon after his victory over Adeku.  But he did defeat all of Adeku's team and them claimed to be way stronger than the champion. Also, it isn't show the moment of registration of your team into the Hall of Fame, but the PC does register the team of your first time clearing the Pokémon League... So I have this doubt about his status when you last meet N.[[User:KurowaSan|KurowaSan]] 08:19, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
:He's not the Champ...[[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 08:21, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

== Trainer Sprite ==

Hmm... {look look look} Correct me if I'm wrong/rude, but was it not agreed upon that although Pokémon sprites were to remain animated .png files (and as such static in some browsers), Trainer sprites would be animated .jpeg files (and as such animated in ''most'' browsers)? {{unsigned|Giratina's Embodiment}}

:.jpeg/.jpg do not and never have been animated. I think you meant .gif. This sprite isn't even animated, it's just a normal static sprite. <span style="color:red">—<small>♥</small></span> <b>[[User:Jello|<span style="color:orange;">Jello</span>]][[User Talk:Jello|<span style="color:#3FA9D0;"><sup>talk</sup></span>]]</b> 23:56, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

I KNEW I got the wrong file type! Anyways, sorry, I noticed that although N has animated sprites ingame, the picture was inanimate, and since it was a .png, I came to the logical (although incorrect) conclusion that it was an animated .png, hence why it wouldn't animate in IE.[[User:Giratina's Embodiment|<font color="black">Giratina's Embodiment</font>]] <small>- [[User talk:Giratina's Embodiment|<font color="black">Please don't hurt us...</font>]]</small> 00:05, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

== Harmonia ==

I found this name in several Japanese websites and the Japanese Wikipedia and mentioned something it about N's surname. Is this confirmed? [[User:神奇超龍|神奇超龍]] 13:59, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
*I personally can confirm Geechisu mentions the "Harmonia Lineage" in his pre-battle rant, so I'd say it's confirmed. [[User:Carrottime|Carrottime]] 23:38, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

== Please Expand N's Bio in the games. ==

''N exists as an antagonistic character, appearing before the player at several points during the game to battle. Despite his aspirations, he refers to Pokémon as "friends".''

I say this needs to be expanded. It's very short and needs more clarification on how his childhood goes, how his father made him the leader of Team Plasma and how his father is using him for his schemes. It needs to be more clarified.[[User:Duo2nd|Duo2nd]] 01:20, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

==English name==
I'm pretty sure his English name was confirmed as N. I noticed that it was added to the intro and removed. Why is this? [http://pokebeach.com/news/1210/pokemon-black-white-display-box.jpg This image] clearly lists his name as N. Or is this because the name N is not matched to this character, despite it clearly being him. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:05, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
:See [[Talk:Pansage (Pokémon)#Protect/Rename?|here]] [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 05:20, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
::I did. "N" is clearly written in the text, not distorted like the elemental monkeys' names. Besides, the big difference between that situation and this is that this does not require moving. Moving pages then relinking everything is a long process, and it is not good if it turns out to be wrong (especially for Pokémon). For this, it is adding 8 characters to the page (including the space and bolding). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 05:26, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

==Plasma Spoiler==
Is there a way we could change the opening sentences of this article to remove references to Team Plasma? I mean, yeah, him being the leader isn't the real spoiler among other things, but he's not linked to Team Plasma until his 3rd battle with the player or so, right? Could we change it to be like "N is a trainer in Black and White who battles the player regularly" or something to that effect?--[[User:Purimpopoie|Purimpopoie]] 01:51, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
:It's spoiled in the opening that he's part of Team Plasma (it contains Ghetsis and the Team Plasma logo, which are seen in Accumula Town before you even meet N). As for being the leader, being crowned by them implies that he is at least very high ranking. Regardless, Bulbapedia does not generally avoid spoilers, other than with {{cat|soft redirects}} and the {{template|spoilers}} template, which is now at the start of this article. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 09:39, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
::Also, I think that people who avoid spoilers simply don't read Bulbapedia articles on such character. We're an encyclopedia, our informations are supposed to be complete. Someone who reads Bulbapedia should know the risk of being spoiled. We're not an official-ish website that gives just superficial teaser informations about the games. We're an encyclopedia. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 09:46, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
:::Well if we're using a spoiler template at the top, would anyone else think it wise to change his name to N Harmonia? Ghetsis does mention that they share the same name, even if it turns out they aren't related. [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] 10:09, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
::::But N obviously isn't his full name, so I wouldn't do that. If we ever get to know his real first name, I think a move would be possible. --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 10:11, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
:::::I think it should be mentioned in the opening paragraph that his surname is Harmonia, but I agree with Maxim that we don't know that N is his first name (and I believe I read somewhere that it is confirmed to stand for something). --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:14, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
:::I... didn't actually mean to move the page, I just intended for the opening paragraph and infobox to be updated, like Ghetsis. [[User:Blazios|Blazios]] 10:43, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
::::I don't think the page should be moved either. I believe what Maxim was saying was that we would move it when we find out what his first name is. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 10:44, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

== Last battle team order ==

Since he uses Zoroak order of his team is important. I'm certain that his Zoroark was disguised as Klinklang in my battle with him, which means it's in his last slot. &mdash; &forall;<tt>[[User:ЫъГЬ|<span style="color:black"><u>ЫъГѣ</u></span>]] &exist;[[User_talk:ЫъГЬ|<span style="color:black"><u>Talk page</u></span>]]</tt>  15:28, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
:That was the case for me as well.  The way the page had it had me thinking it would be disguised as Vanilluxe.  <small>- ''unsigned comment from [[User:Missingno. Master|Missingno. Master]] ([[User talk:Missingno. Master|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Missingno._Master|contribs]])'' </small> 19:16, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

== Technically, the champion ==

N does battle the Elite Four to get to Alder; they comment on how the player certainly isn't the first challenger they fought that day, and N does defeat Alder fair and square (enough to make Alder beg N to reconsider his goal). While he is not "proclaimed" champion and doesn't take the title, he's still as much a champion as the player is after beating champions in past games. This much should at least be acknowledged. [[User:ArcToraphim|Luna Tiger]] * [[User talk:ArcToraphim|the Arc Toraph]] 17:35, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

== "You said you have a dream..." ==

Conjecture: N's last words vary depending on how you answered when he asked you if you had a dream at Chargestone Cave.  If you said "yes," you get the scripts currently given in the article; if you said "no," in White you get what was in the article prior to [http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=N&diff=1410834&oldid=1409461 this edit], and in Black you get the script that I wrote down in my playthrough:

 Dream your dream!
 
 Follow the path of truth to make that
 dream a reality, and someday
 you will achieve all that you dreamed of!
 
 Well, then...
 
 Farewell!

This would explain the discrepancies between the various last words given in the article (and the one I have).  Can anyone check if this theory is correct?  —[[User:Minimiscience|Minimiscience]] 02:52, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
:It is correct. The article lacks the two "No" scripts you refer to, in order to include all four scripts for the two scenarios. [[User:Nechifor|Nechifor]] 09:09, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

== Name origin ==

The name for 'N' could mean more than just the Latin letter; N's frequent mathematical references in his speech (such as formulas) suggest an origin to the common variable given to the set of natural numbers (see this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_number ). What to make of a connection between N and natural numbers is speculation (although they go to infinity much like the surface area of his Menger sponge on his belt), but would it be fair enough to at least add to his name origin that this refers to a common variable used in mathematics? [[User:Chicobo329|Chicobo329]] 00:27, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

== En Harmonia ==
"N Harmonia" sounds (exactly) like "en harmonia," which is Spanish (and probably a few other romance languages) for "in harmony."  Could this be the name origin? ----[[User:Zewis29|<span style="color:purple">Zew</span>]][[User:Zewis29/Articles|i<span style="color:red">s</span>]] [[User talk:Zewis29|<span style="color:green">(2</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Zewis29|<span style="color:blue">9)</span>]] 22:02, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
:"{{wp|enharmonic}}" is already listed as an origin. It's more likely than the Spanish for "in harmony," seeing as his theme is composed almost entirely of enharmonics. --[[User:AndyPKMN|Andy<sup>P</sup><sub>K</sub><sup>M</sup><sub>N</sub>]] [[User talk:AndyPKMN|(talk)]] 12:21, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

== How do you know that he's Ghetsis' son or relative? ==

I don't think that it was even stated in the game. I'm temporarily removing that sentence that says that he's Ghetsis' only son till I see some proof. [[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] 04:57, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
:[[Ghetsis#At N's Castle]]. First quote in the "After N is defeated" bullet point. Generally, and the way he's saying it, having the same last name implies that they are related. Also, if N is not Ghetsis's biological son, he is his adopted son. "Father" does not explicitly have to mean a biological relationship. <span class="sc">[[User:Werdnae|<span style="color:#2D4B98;">Werdnae</span>]]</span> <small>[[User talk:Werdnae|<span style="color:#009000;">(talk)</span>]]</small> 05:29, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
:: Well we could change the sentence around a little bit. Besides we're not quite sure that he is 'directly' related to N as the game did not state that. One of the Seven Sages also said this despite the quote from Ghetsis' that you showed me.  [[User:Blueknightex|Blueknightex]] 11:42, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
::: Actually N is his son. I'm playing the Japanese version of Pokemon Black, and in the castle the word Ghetsis uses to adress him is 'musuko' (息子) (even though he puts 'me' right after it, giving it a very rude, derogatory edge). This word is only used for your own son (otherwise it would be 'musuko-san') and does not have a secondary meaning like the English word 'son'. You do not throw it around, unless you really mean it; and considering the fact that Ghetsis was enraged at this point in the game, it's quite surprising he didn't deny him, given his character (but where would the plot twist be then?); and even if he had been pretending, there was no reason for him at this point to keep his façade up. Just the fact he used this word, even though he clearly didn't think highly of N, says a whole world about their relations. I don't remember N saying 'Father' anywhere in the game though.[[User:Frundan|Frundan]] 10:19, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

== N's eyes ==

at N's coronation, it clearly shows his eyes are blue. it is the only color that cannot be argued with solid evidence. 

people say his eyes are green. not once have i seen an official picture where his eyes are that color. i myself am unsure where that came from.

others say they're gray. it seems that way, yes, but is it not because there is always a shadow over his eyes? even on the manga cover N is shadowed so that his eyes appear gray.

but like i said, in the coronation scene, it shows a close-up of them blue as the sky. i have yet to find a reason why they would appear that way if they were any other color.


[[User:.beautiful.intentions|.beautiful.intentions]] 20:12, 16 June 2011 (UTC) Ally
: Have a look at [http://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/9/9e/Black_White_N.png this official artwork] image, they're green. <span style="color:#FF0">♫♪</span>[[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#00FA9A;">'''エイデ'''</span>]][[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#9F9;">'''ィニズ'''</span>]]<span style="color:#FF0">♪♫</span> 10:29, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
:: I checked the opening. And they are indeed blue. And it's kinda hard to tell what color they are in the artwork. But I would like to point out that {{ga|Silver}}'s eyes are red in the opening but grey in the artwork and sprites. This could be the same thing. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 10:44, 27 June 2011 (UTC)


sorry, i'm still not seeing green there at all, and still dont get how you can get green from any of the official pictures of him. and i think silver's eyes are only red there to match the color scheme at that particular point of the opening. 

[[User:.beautiful.intentions|.beautiful.intentions]] 04:27, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

== Yes, Harmonia again! ==

If the Japanese Games state that they are father and son (as stated above), then should that be definitive? The English hints at it, but never goes into it, and at the moment, when I hover over the word "father", about six lines worth of text comes up. Would it be better to have:

'''Relatives''' | [[Ghetsis]] ({{tt|Father|confirmed in Japanese games only}})

And likewise on Ghetsis's article:

'''Relatives''' | [[N]] ({{tt|Son|confirmed in Japanese games only}})

It's not too important, just an idea. I doubt we'll get a better understanding until the third game (if there will be one), and I didn't want to do it without running through the talk first. [[User:Samjohn95|<font color="Blue">Sam</font>]][[User talk:Samjohn95|<font color="Purple">john</font>]][[Special:contributions/Samjohn95|<font color="Teal">95</font>]] 12:18, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
:I agree. This is a similar situation to {{ga|Silver}} and [[Giovanni]], where in the Japanese games it is confirmed, but only hinted in the English games. Sure, Giovanni and Silver are father and son in Adventures too, but that isn't why we do that the way we do. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:47, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

== N eyes are officially Blue/Gray ==

I enlarged and colour-picked the one in the article and they are grey; the same colour is used in his mugshot and in the official illustrations from the artwork released with the game by Ken Sugimori and the same colour is used in Pokemon Special. In the sprite his eyes are covered by his hairbangs so his pupils are only a single black pixel.

You can see Ken Sugimori artworks [http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1227070 here] and [http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=1227065 here], you can see the ones in the article compared [http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/4318/neyes.png here]

There is no official illustration that depicts him with Green eyes.[[User:LurKasumi|LurKasumi]] 07:32, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

In the B2W2 Japanese anime style trailer, I think his eyes are blue. [[User:TeamPlasmaN1212|TeamPlasmaN1212]] ([[User talk:TeamPlasmaN1212|talk]]) 17:33, 15 July 2012 (UTC) [[User:TeamPlasmaN1212]]

== His real name ==

His real name is apparently [http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/dir/?p=539 Natural Harmonia Gropius]. [[User:Master Lucario|Master Lucario]] 14:27, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
:Wow. I'm not sure if I like the name, but it's awesome that it's revealed. Now waiting for his English name (may or may not be the same) and other languages. Hopefully we'll see this name in "Grey". Anyhoo, could someone translate this entry in its entirety? --[[User:Maxim|Maxim]] 14:55, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
::Apparently the nickname N also stands for "Natural number", which makes sense given his Menger sponge and his maths...iness. - [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 15:11, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
:::Possibly {{wp|Walter Gropius}}, one of the pioneering masters of modern architecture. But considering his childhood and his action, Gropius sounds a bit disturbing.--[[User:神奇超龍|<font color="#2B547E">'''超龍'''</font>]]<sub><small>「'''[[User talk:神奇超龍|對話]]'''」</small></sub> 18:43, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
::::Someone on Serebii translated it:

::::"Let me introduce part of the initial establishment of N --from here-- Real name is Natural Harmonia Gropius. N comes from Natural Number. N exceeds humans. His IQ is strangely high. He excels at maths enough to be called a magician of mathematics. A genius. Quick-witted. Has extreme mood swings. He can see the past and future of persons. There are rumours that perhaps he was born from a Pokémon. (Parents are unknown.) He loves Pokémon plenty, keeps distance from humans. He believes himself to be perfect. His ideology is to always put pokemon first and foremost. Since he is so unwordly, he's been feared by humans. Therefore, he has a very strong connection to Pokémon. --to here-- etcetera, etcetera..." 

::::So yes, it is his real name, not just a name origin. There's also a ''lot'' of interesting trivia in there.- [[User:Blazios|<span style="color:navy">Blazios</span>]] [[User Talk:Blazios|<span style="color:limegreen"><sub>talk</sub></span>]] 19:12, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

:::::Hey, I can read Japanese and it totally does say that. Do you guys just not want it in the article because Serebii got to the info first or something? --[[User:Transfinite|Transfinite]] | [[User talk: Transfinite|Talk]] 05:00, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
::::::No. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 05:04, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
:::::::So why? What makes a staff member's blog less of a reliable source than a staff member's Twitter account? --[[User:Transfinite|Transfinite]] | [[User talk: Transfinite|Talk]] 05:10, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

== Age ==
How old is N? --[[User:Modikisha|Modikisha]] 16:33, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
:It was never revealed. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] 16:51, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
::I'm personally guessing that he's around 14-16 years old. Maybe 17, judging by his excellence of mathematics and his philosophical views of humans. Someone younger than that probably wouldn't be able to understand that, unless they were like, Albert Einstein or someone like that. {{unsigned|Pikachu9000}}
:::The question has been answered. Please take all speculation to the forums. <sup>[[Typhlosion (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup>[[User:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">Jo the Marten</span>]]<sup>[[Flygon (Pokémon)|<span style="color:#C00;">★</span>]]</sup> [[User_Talk:Jo The Marten|<span style="color:#C00;">ಠ_ಠ</span>]][[Cilan (anime)|<span style="color:#90C870;">♥</span>]] 04:25, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

==N's Puzzle Cube==
I'm not really sure where in the article this should be implemented, if at all, but the concept artwork for N's puzzle includes some interesting details.

*'''The Puzzle Carried by N''' (Japanese: '''Ｎが持っているパズル''' ''N ga Motte iru Pazuru'').
**It's described as a sliding puzzle similar to the six-colored {{wp|Rubik's Cube}}.
**"It's decorative, but it has a mathematical motif and might eventually become significant..." (Japanese: 装飾は、最終的には何か意味がある形式をモチーフに…。 ''Sōshoku wa, saishūtekini wa nani ka imi ga aru keishiki o mochīfu ni...'')
**Artwork and notes demonstrate that when the puzzle is solved, a central cube with a keyhole (Japanese: カギ穴 ''kagiana'') appears, which must be opened with a key.
**"Something mysterious is concealed in its core... a Pokémon?" (Japanese: 中心になにかナゾがかくされている　ポケモン？ ''Chūshin ni nanika nazo ga kakusa rete iru... Pokemon?'')

Since it's from the conceptualization stage, it might not actually become relevant, but like I said, it's certainly interesting. [[User:AmaranthSparrow|AmaranthSparrow]] 14:53, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

:It's looks a lot like [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemarchand's_box this], thought I highly doubt Pokémon designers would look for inspiration in Horror books. [[User:LurKasumi|LurKasumi]] 06:01, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

== Gym Battles ==

N was allowed to fight the elite 4 and Alder. In order to do this, he needs the 8 gym badges. Despite this, when you go in any gym and talk to the statues (where it lists certified trainers), it doesn't list N. {{unsigned|deoxys80}}
:He cheated. Team Plasma all obviously had a way to get past the Badge Check Gates, since they moved to and from N's Castle and the rest of Unova (how the Grunt that can teleport you to and from the Pokémon Center and N's Castle is probably the same method). Then again, all the Trainers on Victory Road were also past the Badge Check Gates, and they were not listed as certified Trainers either. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 11:20, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Overview, in my opinion. [[User:TeamPlasmaN1212|TeamPlasmaN1212]] ([[User talk:TeamPlasmaN1212|talk]]) 20:37, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

== Gift Pokémon  ==

N gifts the Player with certain Pokémon in Black 2 and White 2
these include:
Zorua
Tympole
Ferrothorn to name a few i saw it when my friend was playing  the japan  version of the game. i cant  remeber where he gives them or in what order.
[[User:Glalie Power|Glalie Power]] ([[User talk:Glalie Power|talk]]) 06:04, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
:We know. And he doesn't give you any of those. You just get them from other people or the wild. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 06:11, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
Then why Isn't it On the article?--[[User:Glalie Power|Glalie Power]] ([[User talk:Glalie Power|talk]]) 18:05, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
:A reason I can think of is that '''all''' but Zorua are unlocked via Memory Link, and not everyone has both first games and sequels. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 18:10, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
 
What is memory link? [[User:Glalie Power|Glalie Power]] ([[User talk:Glalie Power|talk]]) 06:39, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
:Memory Link is a feature from Black 2 and White 2 that is unlocked via connecting with Black or White. It allows to see the events that happened between the games, and adds some stuff, like the remaining of N's Pokémon, NPCs mentioning the name of trainer from the game you connected to when referring to events from that past, or a one-time battle with Bianca and Cheren (though separately in two different places) with their team from Black and White (what team they will use depends on starter you choose in '''Black and White''', not in sequels. Their team is in 60s or something), not sure if there is something more. [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 07:39, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

== You guys need to add N's Black 2 and White 2 sprite ==
I noticed that for all other characters you guys uploaded their B2/W2 sprite, but you didn't for N. N's sprite is different in B2/W2, he is now smiling. He wasn't smiling in B/W. [[User:Chaos Rush|Chaos Rush]] ([[User talk:Chaos Rush|talk]]) 14:41, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

== Season Battles ==
I'm not so sure that there are actually that many (if any at all) flags on activating these battles. I have an imported copy of Black 2 and caught Kyurem and Zekrom, but I only activated the Memory Link without actually capturing any of N's Pokémon before I went back to N's Castle, and lo and behold, he was there with his Autumn team. All I did before that was catch Kyurem and Zekrom and use the Memory Link; I hadn't even found the trigger to activate N's Pokémon in the wild yet. --[[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 23:42, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

He has a different team every battle. Behold:
Politoed, Lanturn, Tentacruel, Omastar, Kabutops, Starmie. His spring team. {{unsigned|TeamPlasmaN1212}}

::we are aware of that; what Butler is pointing out is that maybe all the methods previously said that allows you to face N's seasonal team, and sign your name with four tildes (~) like it says in the reminder section of everything you edit [[User:Azure42|Azure/ChromeVoid42]] ([[User talk:Azure42|talk]]) 20:37, 29 July 2012 (UTC)


My bad. [[User:TeamPlasmaN1212|TeamPlasmaN1212]] ([[User talk:TeamPlasmaN1212|talk]]) 18:34, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

== N's Pokémon. ==

I've heard that while on Victory Road's entrance (when he gives Waterfall), should his Pokémon be in player's party, he will reflect on that fact (or something like that). Could someone (de)confirm that? [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 19:48, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
:Yes, he does. He said something like "Oh? Is that my Zorua?" or something like that. --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 20:26, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
::Yup, confirm as well. I had Zoroark (which I evolved from N's Zorua) with me when I encountered him there. He did say something about his Pokémon being on my team. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ Blazing</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 20:27, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

== Episode N questions ==

Anybody got stills, or better yet, the entire Episode N trailer? [[User:TeamPlasmaN1212|TeamPlasmaN1212]] 18:28, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
:Was posted on the Twitter feed. [http://t.co/j3y0KysR Here you go.] --[[User:Abcboy|Abcboy]] ([[User talk:Abcboy|talk]]) 18:32, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

== Implications that N is a Zoroark ==

There seem to be several hints in the series that N isn't quite human, and possibly a take-off of "raised by wolves" mythology along with fox trickster figures living extendedly as humans. The biggest hint seems to be the Zoroark that beckons you to him in his Victory Road location in BW2; when you reach him the Zoroark is gone, there's no Zoroark in his party, and he begins speaking to you like you're continuing a conversation. 

There's also the obvious design similarities, the fact that he can speak to pokemon, the fact that he was found in the woods with a Zorua, his unknown parents, the claw marks on his skateboard, etc. A few other Zorua(rk)s appear in the games disguised convincingly as humans as well, but they don't speak to you because they weren't raised around people.

Anyway, it's a compelling theory from this person on Tumblr, and I thought it might be worth a discussion or mention on his page. http://bradofarrell.tumblr.com/post/37570160221/n-is-a-zoroark
--[[User:Tofubeque|Tofubeque]] ([[User talk:Tofubeque|talk]]) 22:18, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
:He's not a Zoroark. He's human. It may be an interesting theory, but it's just a theory. It's not notable at all. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 22:28, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
::An interesting theory, yes, but that is all it is. Bulbapedia, being an encyclopedia, deals exclusively with factual information. Thus, we do not allow speculation or theories on articles. You can, however, discuss theories on the [http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net forums] - [[User:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#DA70D6;">Kogoro</span>''']] '''-''' [[User talk:Kogoro|'''<span class="sc" style="color:#FFB6C1;">Talk to me</span>''']] - 22:34, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
:::I have a question, if we don't allow speculations, then how come there [[Pokémon world in relation to the real world|articles]] [[Pokémon nation|like]] [[List of references to Pulseman||these]]? All those articles have a template that CLEARLY indicate that those articles are speculations. [[User:TheBlazikenMaster|TheBlazikenMaster]] ([[User talk:TheBlazikenMaster|talk]]) 15:23, 10 December 2012 (UTC)