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::Yeah, I agree that map index articles would have minimal value (they'd be very useful for glitch exploration, RAM and ROM editing, etc.) but that's most likely for places other than Bulbapedia.
::Yeah, I agree that map index articles would have minimal value (they'd be very useful for glitch exploration, RAM and ROM editing, etc.) but that's most likely for places other than Bulbapedia.
::Strongly disagree with the "no rename" idea though, as the two things are fundamentally different concepts. One is part of Pokemon data and one is part of the player's save data; there are 5 Pallet Town map indices but only 1 Pallet Town met location in (say) FRLG. It also feels "weird" to have a map index article for Gen 1 only, as that would just be a relic of the previous mix-up and would also wrongly imply that map indices only exist in Gen 1 and/or it would be hard to explain the situation in an encyclopedic way. I would go all the way as far as suggesting that the Gen 1 map index article be moved out of the mainspace entirely, whether to a different space or to a different wiki. [[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] ([[User talk:Blueapple128|talk]]) 11:38, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
::Strongly disagree with the "no rename" idea though, as the two things are fundamentally different concepts. One is part of Pokemon data and one is part of the player's save data; there are 5 Pallet Town map indices but only 1 Pallet Town met location in (say) FRLG. It also feels "weird" to have a map index article for Gen 1 only, as that would just be a relic of the previous mix-up and would also wrongly imply that map indices only exist in Gen 1 and/or it would be hard to explain the situation in an encyclopedic way. I would go all the way as far as suggesting that the Gen 1 map index article be moved out of the mainspace entirely, whether to a different space or to a different wiki. [[User:Blueapple128|Blueapple128]] ([[User talk:Blueapple128|talk]]) 11:38, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
:::I'll be trying to explain my thinking a bit.
:::So.. Ideally, all those things should be documented here imo. (But we're both realists.) And then I'm not a big fan of moving info out of the mainspace, even when its scope/significance is minimal, it's still relevant information.
:::As for the rename thing, what I usually do is take a step back (or two) and try to look at it from a reader perspective (not the nitty-gritty detail tech kinda person that I might be). And from there, I would (could) just go basically "Hey guys, for Generation I, for our locations-by-index-number article, this time around we need to resort to another kind of list, cause that good structured list we're usually using didn't start until Gen II".
:::Of course it's different lists, from entirely different contexts, and if one of the lists becomes extremely relevant somehow (a new glitch?), they would absolutely need be separated and put into context. But.. at face value, right now, both are ''also'' just "lists of locations by index number". When I'm being most pragmatic, that would do. (Of course, anything better you have, go for it by all means.) [[User:Nescientist|Nescientist]] ([[User talk:Nescientist|talk]]) 11:31, 18 June 2022 (UTC)