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== A few propositions ==
== A few propositions ==


This article is getting quite complicated and hard to follow, and some parts don't quite make logical sense. I came up with a few suggestions on how to improve the article, but some of them are a little drastic so I wanted everyone else's input before I made any edits:
This article is getting quite complicated and hard to follow, and some parts don't quite make logical sense. I came up with a few suggestions on how to improve the article, but some of them are a little drastic so I wanted everyone else's input before I made any edits:<br>
1) Handling Event Pokémon:
1) Handling Event Pokémon:<br>
- Looking at the article right now, it says that Ivysaur in GSC can be obtained by evolving an event Bulbasaur. This is quite hard to imagine; GSC events are notoriously hard to get and not thoroughly documented. It is ''much'' more likely for one to get Ivysaur simply by trading from RBY.
- Looking at the article right now, it says that Ivysaur in GSC can be obtained by evolving an event Bulbasaur. This is quite hard to imagine; GSC events are notoriously hard to get and not thoroughly documented. It is ''much'' more likely for one to get Ivysaur simply by trading from RBY.<br>
- Raichu from Yellow is even crazier; its obtaining method is listed as obtaining an event Surfing Pikachu and then evolving it by Thunderstone (since it doesn't have the starter Pikachu's ID number). The number of people on Earth who have done this probably can be counted on one hand, if that.
- Raichu from Yellow is even crazier; its obtaining method is listed as obtaining an event Surfing Pikachu and then evolving it by Thunderstone (since it doesn't have the starter Pikachu's ID number). The number of people on Earth who have done this probably can be counted on one hand, if that.<br>
- There is a lot of cluttering involving the labels "EV", "Ev", "EvE", "EvB", etc. Is this necessary?
- There is a lot of cluttering involving the labels "EV", "Ev", "EvE", "EvB", etc. Is this necessary?<br>
- I propose that '''a single label, "EV", be used to denote event-exclusive Pokémon''', and nothing else. Do we really need a precise distinction between direct distribution (ex. Keldeo) and in-game event (ex. Newmoon Island)?
- I propose that '''a single label, "EV", be used to denote event-exclusive Pokémon''', and nothing else. Do we really need a precise distinction between direct distribution (ex. Keldeo) and in-game event (ex. Newmoon Island)?<br>
- Under this label, only those Pokémon unnecessary to obtain the Diploma would ever receive the "EV" label. There might be a few exceptions for corner cases like Ho-oh, Lugia, Phione, Zorua, and Zoroark, but all other Pokemon should be listed under "T" if they are not normally obtainable in that game. For example, what's more likely: getting a Bulbasaur in Gen V through an event, or getting it by trading one from HGSS?
- Under this label, only those Pokémon unnecessary to obtain the Diploma would ever receive the "EV" label. There might be a few exceptions for corner cases like Ho-oh, Lugia, Phione, Zorua, and Zoroark, but all other Pokemon should be listed under "T" if they are not normally obtainable in that game. For example, what's more likely: getting a Bulbasaur in Gen V through an event, or getting it by trading one from HGSS?<br>
2) Handling the Pokéwalker and Dream World columns:
2) Handling the Pokéwalker and Dream World columns:<br>
- Much of these columns don't make sense. They are not games in the same sense as the main series or Colo/XD, and the idea of trading or evolving Pokémon within them doesn't seem right.
- Much of these columns don't make sense. They are not games in the same sense as the main series or Colo/XD, and the idea of trading or evolving Pokémon within them doesn't seem right.<br>
- I propose that '''these columns are completely removed, and their contents merged with the main series columns'''.
- I propose that '''these columns are completely removed, and their contents merged with the main series columns'''.<br>
- Pokéwalker-exclusive Pokémon should be given "Pw", "PwE", or "PwB".
- Pokéwalker-exclusive Pokémon should be given "Pw", "PwE", or "PwB".<br>
- To perhaps merge some labels, both Dream World and Dream Radar-exclusive Pokémon should be given "Dr", "DrE", or "DrB", with "Dr" standing for "Dream". Again, these are for Pokémon ''exclusive'' to the side game, and should not be used if the Pokémon is obtainable normally.
- To perhaps merge some labels, both Dream World and Dream Radar-exclusive Pokémon should be given "Dr", "DrE", or "DrB", with "Dr" standing for "Dream". Again, these are for Pokémon ''exclusive'' to the side game, and should not be used if the Pokémon is obtainable normally.<br>
I think #2 could be controversial, and I'm definitely open to other opinions. How does this sound?
#2 might be controversial, and I'm definitely open to other opinions. How does this sound?
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