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I don't know if it's okay putting trivia here but if it is it could be noted that the legendary birds have the same heights as the final forms of the Kanto starters. {{Unsigned|Woodland Mudkip}}

== Names and Encounter Order ==

"The ending of each of their names is a number in the Spanish language (one (uno), two (dos), and three (tres)), and reflects... the order in which they are likely to be encountered in the games."

Eh. Is it really likely for a player to hop over to the Power Plant before heading off to fight the Elite Four? It's even more tenuous in FireRed/LeafGreen, where Bill whisks you away to One Island after beating Blaine (granted, you can decline or not visit Mt. Ember on your trip, but if one is so inclined to explore the Power Plant randomly, I can imagine being equally inclined to explore Mt. Ember, too). [[User:Starscream|Starscream]] 19:14, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

:it's already mentioned on the birds page, so you can put it in trivia here if you want [[User:Ultamatecharizard|<span style="background:#000000; color:#FF0000;">Ultamate</span>]][[User Talk:Ultamatecharizard|<sub><font color="#FF5A00">Charizard</font></sub>]] 20:08, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

== First Letters ==

The first letter of Articuno, Moltres and Zapdos is the first letter in the English Alphabet, in the middle, and the last, respectively.  

-If someone is willing to correct that sentence grammatically and add it, it would be greatly appreciated. --[[User:Grubdubdub|Grubdubdub]] 07:09, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
:The order of the birds, though, is AZM. That sorta defeats the point of naming each bird after the various points of the alphabet. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 01:41, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

== Stupid trivia ==
All trivia is stupid so whatever...
Should it be noted this?
MOltres
Zapdos
ARTicuno {{unsigned|Kamusioso}}
:As a band geek, I approve. As a Bulbapedia admin, I do not. Sorry. The LBs don't really have any relation to the late great Wolfgang Amadeus. &mdash;'''<span style="font-family:Verdana"><span style="color:#000">darklord</span>[[User talk:The dark lord trombonator|<span style="color:#0047AB">trom</span>]]</span>''' 11:43, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

== pattern is emerging ==

" their primary types influenced those of the next known trio,"
Unless someone from gamefreak themselves ever said something along these lines (which I seriously doubt), it is just a random poor guess.
It's a common false assumption that the birds and the beasts were in line with some original 3 elements basis, and that the golems suddenly continued on a radical path.

What actually happened is that they decided to change 1-2(alternating) types for the trio each generation, using every type twice.
This way they can make unique type trios for about 10 generations.

So for the beasts they ditched Ice type for later use and introduced Water,

then reused Ice for the golems but ditched the other 2 types, adding Rock and Steel,

(gen 4 had no regular trio)

of course Ice was ditched for good and replaced by Grass for the musketeers.

{|
| style="background:#c33" width=50px |{{typecolor|Ice}}
| style="background:#c33" width=50px |{{typecolor|Electric}}
| style="background:#c33" width=50px |{{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="background:#dc5" width=50px |{{typecolor|Water}}
| style="background:#28c" width=50px |{{typecolor|Rock}}
| style="background:#28c" width=50px |{{typecolor|Steel}}
| style="background:#444" width=50px |{{typecolor|Grass}}
| style="background:#c2c" width=50px |
| style="background:#c2c" width=50px |
| style="background:#ccc" width=50px |
| style="background:#c93" width=50px |
| style="background:#c93" width=50px |
| style="background:#cd3" width=50px |
|-
| style="background:#28c" width=50px |{{typecolor|Ice}}
| style="background:#dc5" width=50px |{{typecolor|Electric}}
| style="background:#dc5" width=50px |{{typecolor|Fire}}
| style="background:#c2c" width=50px |
| style="background:#444" width=50px |{{typecolor|Rock}}
| style="background:#444" width=50px |{{typecolor|Steel}}
| style="background:#c93" width=50px |
| style="background:#ccc" width=50px |
| style="background:#ccc" width=50px |
|
| style="background:#cd3" width=50px |
| style="background:#cd3" width=50px |
|}

Next up is the second Water type with 2 new types added to the first line. Then these 2 repeated in the second line with another new addition in the first, then Grass in second with 2 new and so on...

I'm not saying that this pattern should be written anywhere at all because its just 4 steps, but it still makes more sense than the single random sentence.
If it said they influenced the secondary types of gen V dragons, I would understand the reasoning behind it since all 3 types actually match (although I really doubt that was the case even there, what with the whole energy Yin-Yang->Fire/Electric and absence of energy->Ice->Wuji->Kyurem thing going on..)


In other words: The birds have as many similar types to the beasts as the golems have with the musketeers: 66,6%
--[[User:Saiph charon|Saiph charon]] 15:45, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

== Winged mirage? ==

When they're referred as such? [[User:Marked +-+-+|Marked +-+-+]] ([[User talk:Marked +-+-+|talk]]) 18:18, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
:A {{tc|Bird Keeper}} on Route 14 in FireRed and LeafGreen refers to them as such. <span style="font-family:Arial Black"><span style="color:Red">☼ [[User:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Blazing</span>]]</span>[[User talk:Blazingfist|<span style="color:red">Fist ☼</span>]]</span> 18:45, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

== Connection to Seasons? ==

*Looking at some of their PokéDex entries, it appears that each bird can represent one of the four [[Season (mechanic)|seasons]].  {{p|Articuno}} is [[Season (mechanic)#Winter|winter]], {{p|Zapdos}} seems to be [[Season (mechanic)#Summer|summer]], and {{p|Moltres}} seems to be [[Season (mechanic)#Spring|spring]] (though I could have sworn someone claimed it was [[Season (mechanic)#Autumn|autumn]] for some reason).  This may be a bit of a stretch, though, as it hasn't been consistently established or anything.  Also, there is still one season that isn't represented by these birds, so it may not be concrete evidence to support this. ----[[User:NateVirus|<span style="color:blue">NateVirus</span>]]<small>''([[User talk:NateVirus|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|<span style="color:red">Contributions</span>]]''</small>) 22:07, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
:It is a stretch. Seasons were only implemented in Generation V, while the birds are from Generation I. And as you said, there are only three birds, that automatically invalidates the theory. [[User:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #3363FF; text-shadow: 1px 1px 0px #aaa"><sc>'''Masatoshi'''</sc></span>]] [[User_talk:Masatoshi|<span style="color: #ED3B3B; font-family: Times New Roman;">''talk''</span>]] 22:10, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
::*While I agree, it is a stretch, I wouldn't say this was ruled out because of seasons being implemented in a Generation that came after the birds were introduced.  This idea kinda was something I've seen before Generation V.  But, even so, it seems to be a stretch regardless, it was just a thought seeing that unlike future trios and legendaries, they were just there and didn't play some "role" that was straight forward in the games themselves.  I know they don't have to have a "role" in the games, just seen mentions and hints in the past (before Gen V).  Thanks. ----[[User:NateVirus|<span style="color:blue">NateVirus</span>]]<small>''([[User talk:NateVirus|<span style="color:green">Talk</span>]]''|''[[Special:Contributions/NateVirus|<span style="color:red">Contributions</span>]]''</small>) 19:00, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

== X/Y Starters ==

I picked Fennekin and have seen Zapdos in the wild. Obviously, something isn't adding up here. -[[User:From Beyond the Stars|<font color ="#68E0D0">Stars</font>]] <sub>[[User talk:From Beyond the Stars|<font color ="#187868">talk</font></sub>]]  20:45, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
:Huh, you're right. I started with Chespin and Articuno is my roamer, that doesn't match with this article either. <font color="#3fff00">'''Soulweaver'''</font> (U.S.) <sup>([[User:UltimateSephiroth|<font color="#3f7f00">about me</font>]] · [[User talk:UltimateSephiroth|<font color="#3f7f00">chat</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/UltimateSephiroth|edits]])</sup> 21:02, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

== Legendary bird ==

Alakazam refers to Zapdos as 'legendary bird Pokemon', Japanese equivalent [http://i.imgur.com/iajKiOc.png here]. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 21:37, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

== Titan Trio ==

Official guide to legendary and mythical Pokemon calls them the "Titan Trio"[[User:KrytenKoro|KrytenKoro]] ([[User talk:KrytenKoro|talk]]) 00:19, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

== Dyna Tree in crown Tundra ==

Do you guys think the Dyna Tree at Dyna Tree Hill is the source of the Legendary Birds regional appearance. As most Pokemon regional forms cna be trace to one thing that caused their appearance to change. Second, we know they migrate to that Tree to feast which may explain the change. Do we ave enough fact to emotions this in several pages like the this page and the Legendary Birds themselves or do we need more proof?--[[User:Jacob9594|Jacob9594 ]] ([[User talk:Jacob9594|talk]]) 14:02, 26 October 2020 (UTC)
:Unless there's any text in the game that indicates that clearly, that's not really much but speculation. I may have missed something but I certainly did not get that indication at all while playing. --[[User:Celadonkey|<span style="color:#00A1E9">cela</span><span style="color:#BF004F">donk</span>]] ([[User talk:Celadonkey|talk]]) 14:35, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

== Trivia Edit ==

The trivia mentions that the trio lacks a battle music created for them, but as of the crown tundra their galarian forms have an unique battle theme.{{Unsigned|LaprasLaplace}}

==Titan Trio==
Better stick with "legendary birds" since that name is also official, and "Titan Trio" could easily be confused with the [[Legendary giants|Legendary titans]]. [[User:Rjd1922|Rjd1922]] ([[User talk:Rjd1922|talk]]) 10:57, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

== Trivia - BD/SP Battle Theme ==

Does the theme arrangement from BD/SP in Ramanas park count as having a theme composed for them?  The Legendary Birds and Legendary Beasts have their own battle themes there, which share some segments but have others that are unique to either group; should these be considered as two arrangements of a core theme, or two separate themes that share motifs?  In the latter case it may count as a theme composed specifically for the Legendary Birds. --[[User:Clericbob|Clericbob]] ([[User talk:Clericbob|talk]]) 05:20, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

== Official capitalization ==

I have added a note to this page and the [[legendary giants]] page, noting that the core series games do not capitalize 'legendary' in the names of these groups. [[User:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;color:#00d1bc">'''Land'''</span>]][[User talk:Landfish7|<span style="font-family:Tahoma;color:#006699"><small>'''fish7'''</small></span>]] 13:04, 22 February 2024 (UTC)