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== Electabuzz...? ==

Is it me, or didn't Gary have an Electabuzz at one point? If so, wouldn't it be more logical to say that it probably evolved rather than Gary having caught Electivire in the wild? Maybe it ''is'' just me... [[User:Beta Zero|β0]] 08:18, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:It wasn't revelaed whether Gary caught it as an Electabuzz.--[[Charizard (Pokémon)|<font color="FF1111"><small>Force</small></font>]] <sup>[[User:Force Fire|<font color="E24242"><small>''Fire''</small></font>]]</sup> [[User talk:Force Fire|<font color="4F5870"><small>''talk''</small></font>]] 08:20, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
::If Gary ever had an Electabuzz, I doubt it would have escaped our rabid anime fans' notice for this long. If you really think he had one, find the episode to cite as your source. --[[User:Martonimos|((<font color="#008000">Marton</font>]] [[User talk:Martonimos|<font color="#50C878">imos</font>))]] 08:26, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:::Interesting, I thought he did. So I guess it was my random mind after all... [[User:Beta Zero|β0]] 08:28, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

== Notability ==

All right everyone, after checking section 3 of [[Bulbapedia:Notability requirements/Anime Pokémon|this policy]], do any of you still think Electivire deserves its own page? Its only major role was its debut, where it sent Team Rocket blasting off and defeated Pikachu. Its other two appearances weren't any more than background supporting roles. [[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:blue">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]]'' 05:23, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
:Electivire had a major impact on the plot. It was the source through which Ash learned about the unique Pokémon in the Sinnoh region, had a very notable battle, played an important role in all of its appearances which were more than just a "background supporting role". So, I see no reason to question its notability. [[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#009900;">'''Adyniz'''</span>]] — [[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#003399;">'''Wanna talk?'''</span>]] 05:55, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
::Um, what? It made only three appearances (at least thus far, but I doubt Gary would ever use it again), and the only part of its history which is a reasonable size was its battle with Team Rocket and Pikachu, and battling doesn't contribute to a Pokémon's notability. Also, what major impact did it have on the plot? [[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:blue">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]]'' 06:35, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
:::Ash learned about the unique Pokémon in the Sinnoh region after seeing Electivire for the first time, that is the first major plot impact. In [[DP045]], Electivire was the one who helped out in protecting Shieldon, the featured Pokémon. It battled against Saturn's Toxicroak in [[DP151]], fought for the Lake guardians and it helped in stopping Hunter J on a few occasions as well. These appearances are more than enough to keep this article. [[User:Adyniz|<span style="color:#009900;">'''Adyniz'''</span>]] — [[User talk:Adyniz|<span style="color:#003399;">'''Wanna talk?'''</span>]] 06:47, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
::::Ok, those are all good points, I'm not necessarily saying that it '''should''' be deleted, and it's at least more notable than say, Paul's Magmortar and Trip's Conkeldurr (both of which, for the record, might actually have to be deleted, but I'll save those discussions for later). I brought this up for Electivire first because Gary's the first main rival of the series, and my personal definition of notability for these articles is whether you can say more about them than can go in the trainer's article and/or the anime section of the species articles. Electivire's article is pretty short, and I could easily condense it and place all the info in Gary's page. [[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:blue">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]]'' 07:26, 12 November 2012 (UTC)