Talk:Evolution-inducing held item


I've had several people tell me that Magby holds Magmarizer 50% in Diamond and 5% in Pearl. Do we have confirmation of this? --Viscosity 02:07, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Other way around. Elekid holds the Electirizer 50% in Diamond and 5% in Pearl, Magby's got Magmarizer 5% in Diamond and 50% in Pearl. TTEchidna 03:11, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Trading Items

I've never heard an answer to this elsewhere, so I'll ask it here: I know that an evolution stone is used up when used to evolve a pokemon, but is an item used to evolve a pokemon during trades used up, or can it be re-used? (ie. taken off the pokemon at the other end of the trade and used to evolve another pokemon)

No, it's like the stones. Once it evolves, ithe item becomes part of the Pokémon. It' gone. YinYang

1195 22:03, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

It does become part of the Pokémon. That would explain why some evolved forms look the way they do (like Scizor and Steelix having metallic-looking skin; the Metal Coat "merges" with their skin). Diachronos 16:17, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

King's "Rock"

Can't it be considered a Stone? Synonyms people!--KukiTalk 12:15, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Can someone add the image of the King's Rock? It's just sitting there without an image. --!--wytsalvy

Not a stone, also I'll try and find it. TTEchidna 05:29, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
Um. There's an image there. TTEchidna 05:30, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Razor Fang

It says both Fight Area and Redeamable for Battle Points. I looked all over the Fight Area and can't find one. Does the article mean that the Battle Tower is in the Fight Area or is it actually refering to 2 different areas?Zabbethx 15:43, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

I'll look into this; I've got a fang that I'm currently using, and I'm sure I have never bought it from the tower. So it's either possible to find it there, or in a completely different area. I'll get back when I know.--Thembi 09:39, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
That was awfully fast. You can find it in the southwestern corner of the Battle Park.--Thembi 09:41, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, odd. I still can't seem to find it. I know I haven't got it yet and everywhere I look for game guides they all say the same thing, "Battle Park". Would it be to much to ask for an exact location? I know discussion pages aren't here for this sort of this but I figure since I'm so confused by this article that there has to be others confused by it to.Zabbethx 14:03, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


I have a question about the Electirizer. Can I find this Item in Pokemon Platinum? Is this a held item by electrabuzz? Zabi 15:52, 7 February 2009 (MESZ)

Yes. — THE TROM — 19:48, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

King's Rock in Mystery Dungeon

How do you get a King's Rock in Time or Darkness? And do you need to trade to get a Politoed? Do you need a link cable or something? If you do need to trade, does it follow the same process as the normal games?--Wowy 07:53, 17 April 2009 (UTC)


I just searched "Kings Rock" (without the apostrophe) and it came up with no results. Someone should make that redirect to King's Rock.--I'm Pokelova(Talk) 16:35, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

I will, but what was stopping you? The Dark Fiddler - You enter a poorly lit room... 16:38, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
I'm afraid I have no idea how to do redirects!--I'm Pokelova(Talk) 16:41, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
Take teh coding from the King's Rock redirect? The Dark Fiddler - You enter a poorly lit room... 16:43, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
In other words, this. — THE TROM — 23:01, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

Page layout.

Idk if this is just my computer, but when i go to this page, the picture is in the way of the "show" button and i cant look at deepseascale or deepseatooth. and its like that for all the pages using this layout. i think the older layout was better.Shelldone 23:43, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm not having trouble. R.A. Hunter Blade 23:53, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Sort Method

I see the list is sorted in alphabetical order, but shouldn't it be sorted by generation introduced, then each gen alphabetically? Gets confusing if I scroll down and it has a gen IV, then III, then IV again.--Miumaru 04:34, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

it's not really that confusing

but it sounds ok Ataro 04:38, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

I think it's fine as it is. If I'm looking for a specific item, like most people coming to this page, alphabetical is the best way to find it. --Jdthebud 21:41, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Gen V Items

I was just wondering when the new Gen V items, like the Clean Scale, are going to be added on here. The Clean Scale links to this page but there is no entry. I had to look on Serebii to find out about it. - unsigned comment from Jdthebud (talkcontribs)

Sorry. The section is up now, but it has no information yet. —darklordtrom 05:23, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

FR/LG Dragon Scale

We all know that evolution of certain Pokemon like Golbat and Chansey who evolve by friendship are prevented in the game until National Dex, and most evolution items are not given to you yet. However, the Dragon Scale can be found on Wild Horsea. So if that is the case, when giving a Seadra a Dragon Scale before the National Dex then trade it, does it prevent it from evolving into Kingdra even with the item? Shiramu Kuromu 22:52, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes it does. Tried it before and nothing happened. Have to wait until after the Pokédex is upgraded. Frozen Fennec


I think we should make pages for the various items listed on this page. There is enough info about them right?--Supermon 00:03, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, but I disagree. There's not enough information for each of these to have their own page. Creating a page just for them to be a stub in useless and not very productive. Just my thoughts. --Pokemaster97 00:05, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
There is not enough information to even make sub-category pages. And, it would be a hassle to try navigating between them. There's also only 15 different items on this page... not enough to even consider splitting at this point. If there were about 40, then maybe. R.A. Hunter Blade 03:52, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Okay I was wrong you were right.Sorry for the hassle.--Supermon 22:02, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

No need to apologize. You put out a suggestion and got feedback. Things just seem a bit more harsh around here, since nobody uses emoticons to show the emotion of their comments. R.A. Hunter Blade 18:13, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Availability in Funfest Missions

In the lost items Funfest Missions, you get to keep the items. It's mostly low-value items like escape ropes, but in Black 2 I've found several Magmarizers already (as well as Cover Fossils). Should that be added here? PlusleFan (talk) 18:06, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Metal Coat in XY

Is the location info correct? I don't recall seeing wild Pokémon in the Pokéball factory. --NeilTarrant (talk) 11:46, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Because there aren't. By "held by wild X", it refers to species overally, never to Pokémon in a location (the "wild" is even linked to the list which includes all items, even those on Pokémon never obtainable in the wild, as it's extracted from data; though species' and items' articles list only the legitimate cases; the list contains all of them). If a location itself is mentioned, that means you can obtain the item there (either lying on the ground, or obtained from someone). Eridanus (talk) 12:58, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

King's Rock and Multi-Strike moves

If I have a King's Rock on a Pokemon with a Multi-Strike Move (ie: Bullet Seed), is there a 10% chance per strike or just one 10% chance?

Either it's a 10% chance per strike or my Skill Link Cinccino is the embodiment of good luck. - unsigned comment from Missingno. Master (talkcontribs) 15:36, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

ORAS Oval Stone

It has been theorised that the only place to find oval stones on ORAS is from wild Happiny in Mirage Mountain. Xolotl (talk) 12:20, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

King's Rock flinch stack in Gen 5/6

In the effect description section it says "Has a 10% chance of causing the target Pokémon to flinch when using a move that deals damage and does not already have a chance to flinch" for Gen 5 and 6, does it mean that it won't stack with a move using the p*(1-p)*0.1 formula that already has a flinch chance? - unsigned comment from Kolu (talkcontribs)

Yes. Basically, it grants a move the added effect to flinch, but if it already could flinch anyway it has no effect. Likewise, it also doesn't stack with Stench. The standard formula for the joint probability does not apply. --SnorlaxMonster 13:16, 7 September 2015 (UTC)

Deep Sea Scale

(edit: er, Mirage Mountain, not Island. Down in the right hand corner of the map, but there's a couple there and I'm not sure how to explain which one I mean)

There's at least one Deep Sea Scale available as a hidden item in one of the Mirage Islands, should that not be mentioned here? OvertKestrelS (talk) 06:52, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Can somebody add more information about everstones?

I just added game data on the everstone to this page. However, I don't have time to copy other information from Evolutionary stone onto this article, such as artwork, sprites, and appearances in the TV show and the manga. If you're reading this and you have time to complete this article, please do so. sumwun (talk) 01:28, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

It'd probably better if there was a note in the lead about the Everstone, rather than duplicating the information over two separate pages. --Abcboy (talk) 01:53, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
What do you mean by "lead"? Sorry, I'm kind of new here. sumwun (talk) 20:41, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
The first section of the page, before the table of contents. --Abcboy (talk) 21:18, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
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