Ummmm.... The bit about Eevees at the end is plain wrong. Things don't evolve due to their environment. It is merely that the creatures that have a favourable variation survive to produce offspring and pass on their genes, and so more things have the variation than don't. This is like junior high-level knowledge. DanJimi 10:25, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
at the list of non-evolving pokemon, you see the last pkmn is aerodactyl but next to it is a picture of an kabutops
Phione
I put Phione on the list of non evolving non legendaries, and it keeps getting removed. WHY???? It's not as though Phione is legendary. Missingno. Master 02:09, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
- Because in some people's minds, it is legendary. :/ User:TinaTheKirlia/Sig 02:16, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
But it's not confirmed to be legendary. And IMO, the fact that one can recruit multiple Phione in MD2 PROVES conclusively that Phione is not a legendary (In the MD games, legendaries are strictly limited to one per game). -- Glitch and Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 15:20, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- Please see your talk page, Missigno.Master. User:Theryguy512/Sig 15:37, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
If it isn't a legendary, why is it banned from the battle tower? It's definitely not because of it's battle prowess. No. It's because it's normally unavailable in normal play. You still need access to Manaphy to get them.
It's no legendary, but it's still an event Pokémon in a sense. - PDL
- The only Pokémon banned from the Battle Tower are legendary. Phione is legendary, albeit the crappiest of them. Plus, Missingno Master, you might wanna do something OTHER than just adding Phione in there, such as, oh, changing the count to 43 and making it so the table isn't f'd up.
- Plus, here's the thing: how much of a chance does Phione have of getting evolutionary relatives? ZERO! It has Manaphy. The other 42 have at least a chance of that.
- Jeez, I understand being the devil's advocate, but Phione just isn't worth it. It sucks in battle, sure, but so do many other legendaries. User:TTEchidna/sig 08:11, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- Devil's advocate? I wasn't suggesting that Phione should be listed >_>. However, I suppose I wasn't making myself clear enough. - PDL
- No, the Pokémon banned from the Battle Tower are in the Uber tier. Note that Cresselia isn't banned, it's in the OU tier as well. Is it legendary? Hell yeah. (Yet it can compete in Uber if it really wants to..) User:TinaTheKirlia/Sig 23:06, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- See, that's where fan definitions suck. Everything banned from the BT is legendary, the only exceptions to this are the normal legendary trios of each region (meaning, of course, that GKR and DPG aren't normal trios. They're mascot trios, though Giratina's not a mascot... but hey, it's a better name than other stuff), the Lati duo, Cressy, and Heatran. User:TTEchidna/sig 23:12, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- No, the Pokémon banned from the Battle Tower are in the Uber tier. Note that Cresselia isn't banned, it's in the OU tier as well. Is it legendary? Hell yeah. (Yet it can compete in Uber if it really wants to..) User:TinaTheKirlia/Sig 23:06, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- Devil's advocate? I wasn't suggesting that Phione should be listed >_>. However, I suppose I wasn't making myself clear enough. - PDL
Ahem. Phione is now officially not a legendary. 1 I take it this means I was justified in putting it back in the non-evolving non-legendary box thingy? -- Glitch Pokémon. Official Pokémon. There is no real difference between the two. In my opinion, the two should be considered equal!-- quoted by Missingno. Master 11:45, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- Even if we assume that Phione is not legendary, which is unsubtantiated unless claimed or alluded to by the designers (that is, not any low-rank employee of an affiliated company), it still has no place on the list. The reason for this is that the list shows all Pokémon with some chance to evolve in later installments of the game. It has been observed, and in fact referenced in the Diamond and Pearl games, that legendaries need not evolve because they have reached their maximum potential as-is; therefore, there is no chance for any of the legendaries to evolve.
- It so happens that regardless of whether Phione is classified as legendary or not, there is no reason to believe that it will ever evolve. If it were to evolve, it would evolve into Manaphy, as any other scenario would be cumbersome (a legendary spawning a species not from its own family). However, the reason behind the fact that Phione does not evolve into Manaphy, which is that Manaphy is unique, will continue to hold beyond the current generation. -Unown Lord 14:07, 5 February 2008 (UTC)