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Death

Has anyone here ever given thought that in the anime and the games, that Pokémon can't die. Even in the movie, Celebi is revived. But here Marowak and Cubone wear the skulls of their DEAD mom. Am I the only one seeing this inaproppriate?--Machamp ion 16:41, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

...yes Pokémon can die...just not in gameplay, and occasionally in the anime. Latios, Lucario, and Darkrai are all dead. Also, in order to become a fossil, you need to die, and we have lots of Pokémon brought back through fossils.
Pokémon can die. You, the player, just can't make them die yourself.--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 17:04, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Well Lucario didn't DIE DIE, he just is in suspended animation. But I toatoly forgot about Latios, but how did Darkrai die? He didn't even make an appearance yet and he's dead? Whoa cruel.--Machamp ion 17:09, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Latios "sacrifices himself" to block that tsunami Annie and Oakley made. I'm pretty sure Darkrai ends up dead, anyway...--Loveはドコ? (talk contribs) 17:21, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Dialga vs Palkia vs Darkrai. It appeared, just not outside of Japan yet. TTEchidna 20:52, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
I see you're all forgetting the most obvious death of all. The Marowak in Pokémon Tower. System Error 22:18, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
And all of the other graves in Pokémon Tower. -Happy Mask Man 22:49, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
What gets me, personally, is that you can breed Cubone from other Cubone and I assume - though I haven't done it yet - that the mother doesn't die in the process. So, whence the skulls? But that's the same complaint as "whence the other two Magnemites?" and "whence the other Beldum, and then the other Metang?" - a quibble, more than anything else. (I assume the following is a signature. I've forgotten how to edit things.) --Kadrin 12:47, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
The problem with Cubone is that the backstory it is given works for the one Cubone in the plot of Red and Blue but would be terribly inefficient if applied to the whole species. --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 14:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

i took that backstory with a grain a salt. Boywonder01 14:57, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Maybe it is just folklore... --FabuVinny |Talk Page| 16:13, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
And besides, put Darkrai under Celebi. He's been revived too.BlueJirachiWishMaker 14:59, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Isn't it possible that it's refering to the skull the mother used to wear as a Cubone, as opposed to say, its' actual skull? It's entirely possible and heck, even more likely that the mothers simply pass their old skulls down to their children as Marowak don't wear them any longer. The alternative would be Cubone being sad for it's mother, but then deciding to cut her head open and steal her skull to parade around as a fancy hat. The pokedex entry was likely referring to that one Cubone as far as the dead mother parts, but maybe not quite the way it sounded with the skull. -Flameblight 14:29, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

The Skull

Ok, we know it wears the skull of it's dead mother, but which skull does it wear. Does it remove the helmet it's mother is wearing, or does it wear the skull right out of its mother's head?

If it wares the skull helmet of its dead mother, then if its mother is a Marowak someone (in the Pokémon word)surly must have seen a Cubone wearing a Marowak helmet unless they evolve straight to a Marowak.

If it wears the skull out of its dead mother's head, then the inner skull of a Cubone and/or Marowak must be shaped like the Skull helmet of a Cubone. That mean that even if the Cubone evolves, the helmet has only changed in the evolution and the skull in its head is still the shape of a Cubone Helmet.

So which is it. The helmet or the actual skull? Yami 21:56, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

My input here, but am I the only person who things would be a little... err, too grim for Nintendo if Cubone actually, at birth, rips open its mothers head, tears off it's skin, and rips out its skull, then wears the blood covered skull on its head? ~~Takoto - サソデイ 22:12, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Since Marowak is the Bone Keeper pokemon, I'd guess it probably holds onto the skull it wore as a Cubone somehow which gets passed down like an heirloom from mother to child or something. The mother Marowak may not ever actually WEAR her old skull anymore so much as just keep it...somewhere on her person and that boney-looking head is actually just that, the head since we've seen it move its' lower jaw when Marowak appear in the anime and it seems to be part of the upper gray head, unlike Cubone who has a separate-looking brown lower jaw. Just a guess though.--Flameblight 05:21, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I just realized... Oh my god It's true!

Or is it? I wouldn't know. Anyways, you ought to check this out, if it's true it's definately notable. LOOK!!! [1] --GEN1KING 12:06, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Right....--ForceFire 12:20, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Speculation...and not really plausible. I couldn't see the connection. Oh, well. Time will tell.--Clarky13 12:25, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
Without a statement from the game developers, we can't include that. —darklordtrom 19:22, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
This better not be true... CuboneKing 22:09, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
I know it's just speculation, but I do see a resemblence. I was wondering if someone knew if it had been confirmed, or something of the sort. I guess not... --GEN1KING 08:41, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
I do agree with this. Needs more developer statement. Odd how it took us like 12 years to figure it out. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/960099-pokemon-heartgold/51775952?page=1 Lold. PoketoaTheFirefox 18:57, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
It is unconfirmed, but it is heavily rumored among the fandom that cubone evolves to kangaskhan, and thus is worth mention. Mikkim 05:10, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
Except looking at their bulbapedia entries, neither of those sprites are there.Lord of Origami :) 14:46, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

I,ve heard of this theory from many places, we could say somthing like "It is a populer theory amung fandom that cubone is an orphaned Kanghaskhan whose evelution was alterd due to the skull it placed on its head". If not could the Orphan/Baby Kangaskhan theory at least be put in the fandom section under Fake Pokémon (it is definatly worth noting). EpicShadow 19:00, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

I read somewhere that there was apparently an interview with Satoshi by Nintendo Power where it was mentioned that a Cubone->Marowak->Kangaskhan evolution line was the original idea until they decided Kangaskhan would be better stand-alone. However, those sprites in that picture are fan-made. Also, most of the official artwork I see of Kangaskhan shows that her baby is gray.Scorponis 01:36, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

A pretty decent look at its face?

I was just made aware of a set of cards released by Bandai in 1997 with unique art done by Sugimori. Cubone's can be seen here: iaza11848284936800.jpg

Source here: http://community.livejournal.com/prtcg/8417.html This is, to my knowledge, the best look at its face that I've ever seen. The fact that it was illustrated by Sugimori would lend some credibility to it being canon - could this be implemented in the article somewhere? Silverlucario 08:59, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

German meaning

<<A combination of [...] and oss, a form of the Latin word for bone>>. Actually in the declination of the latin os, ossis there is no oss... I think it does not actually comes from there--CiaobyDany (talk) 20:56, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Elephant

Could one of its origins be the elephant? Elephants are large and formidable creatures and therefore are hard to take down, like a Cubone and Marowak due to their high defense stat. They are also one of the most powerful creatures alive today similar to how Marowak currently has the highest attack capability. The biggest similarity between Cubone's family and elephants are their reactions to death. It has been shown that elephants are vary sensitive to the death of their family or even others of their own species and have some kind of feeling to bones of dead elephants. In one particular examination of elephants a matriarch of a family of African elephants died devastating them all, but most surprising of all her calf began to weep and scream at the dead mammal as a Cubone is said to do in numerous pokedex entries. Also in the crystal pokedex entry for Marowak it references a mass Marowak graveyard hidden in the world a reference to the modern myth of the elephants graveyard. - unsigned comment from Toymoo (talkcontribs)

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