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==Leaf Storm==
does this mean that if I use Leaf Storm 3 times, then my Jaroda will have a +6 Sp. Atk?
Also, if I use an attack like belly drum, that maximizes Atk when used, what happens?
[[User:PikaNinja7|PikaNinja7]] 16:28, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, three Leaf Storms give you +6 SpA and Belly Drum -6 Atk.----'''''無限の知性''''' ◎ [[User:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#BF0B17">ＤＥＮＮＯＵ</font>]]'''[[Special:Random|◆]]'''[[User talk:Dennou Zenshi|<font color="#1250A6">ＺＥＮＳＨＩ</font>]] 16:43, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
:: awesome, gonna get myself a dream world tsutarja then. [[User:PikaNinja7|PikaNinja7]] 05:47, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
::: Does Antagonist affect the opponent's moves too, or just the Pokémon's? So if a Serperior's foe (let's say a Tsunbear) uses Icy Wind against it, does Serperior's speed increase? Similarly, if Tsunbear uses Hone Claws, will its accuracy and attack drop? [[User:H4r8z0r|H4r8z0r]] 02:50, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
:::: It affects any stat changes of the Pokémon with Antagonist. Therefore, if a Serperior has Antagonist, and Icy Wind is used against it, its speed will increase. However, if its opponent uses Hone Claws, the move will work like normal because it doesn't target Serperior. --[[User:RiverAura|<font color="#00CCFF">River</font>]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|<font color="#00FFCC">Aura</font>]] 18:41, 26 February 2011 (UTC)

== {{m|Psych Up}} ==

How does this ability affect Psych Up, if it does at all? --[[User:RiverAura|<font color="#00CCFF">River</font>]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|<font color="#00FFCC">Aura</font>]] 17:35, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

The pokemon will gain copy stat changes as the Contrary pokemon recieves them- if Snivy, for example, gained +2 attack, then psych up will copy the +2 attack. [[User:Cacaramel|Cacaramel]] ([[User talk:Cacaramel|talk]]) 06:23, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

== Double battles==
What about double battles? does this ability apply only to the pokémon that owns it or to all pokémon in the field? [[User:Piotr mil|Piotr mil]] 01:22, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Only the pokemon with Contrary is affected by the ability. All other pokemon on your side are as normal. [[User:Cacaramel|Cacaramel]] ([[User talk:Cacaramel|talk]]) 06:24, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

== Acquiring this ability ==
When a pokemon acquires this ability through skill swap, will stat changes already in effect be switched? For example, My deoxys uses Psycho Boost, and then the opponent sends out a serperior. If I use Skill Swap, will my -2 Sp Atk become + Sp Atk? I'm also wondering if this would apply to losing the ability. {{unsigned|Delspencerdeltorro}}

No, the stat change remains the same at -2. The ability only reverses stat changes while the ability is active. However, if you wer to use Psycho Boost AGAIN while Dexoys has Contrary, then you will gain +2 Sp. Atk. [[User:Cacaramel|Cacaramel]] ([[User talk:Cacaramel|talk]]) 06:27, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

== Trivia ==
The Japanese name of this ability, "Amanojaku", is the name of a small oni-like demon that instigates humans to act upon their darkest compulsions and turn to evil, and will always lie or state the opposite when interrogated. The name is used in common language to mean "contrarian" or "backwards". {{unsigned|Horo-kun}}

== Snivy and this ability ==

So how exactly do you get a Snivy with this ability?  I can't find Snivy mentioned on [http://www.serebii.net/blackwhite/dreamworldareas.shtml this list] of Pokémon that can be found in the various Dream World areas, and I'm not sure what can be done to get one. -- [[User:Dracosummoner|Dracosummoner]] 03:19, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
:You can't get a Snivy with this ability ''legally'' at the moment. Just like Keldeo, Meloetta, and Genesect. Someone probably figured it out via hacking. --[[Tracey Sketchit|<span style="color:#33CC66;">'''ケンジ'''</span>]][[User talk:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#6600CC;">'''の'''</span>]][[User:Kenji-girl|<span style="color:#FF00CC;">'''ガール'''</span>]] 03:23, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
::Thank you. -- [[User:Dracosummoner|Dracosummoner]] 02:31, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

== List ==

Should there be a list of moves affected by this ability? Limited to those that the Pokemon listed can learn, or it might take up half the page. Something like this:

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|- style="background: #ccc;"
! {{color2|000000|Move}}
! {{color2|000000|Type}}
! {{color|000000|Effect}}
! Pokémon learned by{{tt|*|with this Ability}}
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| {{m|Leaf Storm}}
| align="center" style="background:#{{grass color}}" | {{typecolor|Grass}}
| align="center" style="background:#{{green color}};" | {{color|FFF|+}}
| style="background:#FFF;" align="center" | {{MS|495}}{{MS|496}}{{MS|497}}
|-
| {{m|Coil}}
| align="center" style="background:#{{poison color}}" | {{typecolor|Poison}}
| align="center" style="background:#{{black color}};" | {{color|FFF|-}}
| style="background:#FFF;" align="center" | {{MS|495}}{{MS|496}}{{MS|497}}
|}
|}

[[User:Vuvuzela2010|<span style="color:#FFFFFF; background-color:#6890F0">'''Vuvuzela2010''']]</span>[[Latios (Pokémon)|<span style="color:red; background-color:#6890F0"> Δ  ]]</span> 23:00, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
:I don't think so. Most ability pages don't have lists. Only the ones that would not be clear if they were simply defined have them, like {{a|Iron Fist}} or {{a|Soundproof}}. The definition on this page now tells what the ability does just fine. In addition, the list would have to include every single move that changes stats, because moves used by other Pokémon on the Contrary one still activate the ability. --[[User:Darth Zekrom|<span style="color:#000000">'''Darth'''</span>]] [[User talk:Darth Zekrom|<span style="color:#00BFFF">'''Zekrom'''</span>]] 02:06, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

== 9bladesofice's Contrary List ==
So I just wanted to let you guys know I am not trying whatsoever to mess up the page I just want a lot of pokemon investigated for what contrary does when they use it and make the information public since people have physically asked questions that no one has answered like this one: "How does this ability affect Psych Up, if it does at all? --[[User:RiverAura|<font color="#00CCFF">River</font>]][[User_Talk:RiverAura|<font color="#00FFCC">Aura</font>]] 17:35, 9 January 2011 (UTC)"
:and this: if I use an attack like belly drum, that maximizes Atk when used, what happens? I actually want to answer questions like those but my template I used clearly ran over into another title with information but that should not mean that you just delete it all... what if I hadn't saved it... Luckily I had, but I do plan on placing with again '''in a way that works at least''' so no one will randomly delete it thinking it's spam (or something) once again though sorry it messed up the page I did not intend for that to happen and the editting thing did not even look like it mess anything up. Apologies once again hoping you'll read this. [[User:9bladesofice|9bladesofice]] ([[User talk:9bladesofice|talk]]) 09:44, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
::Hi, I'd just like to let you know that I discovered the Contrary mechanics a bit more so some of the questions have been answered.[[User:Cacaramel|Cacaramel]] ([[User talk:Cacaramel|talk]]) 06:28, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

== Contrary, Grassy Terrain and held items ==

Does Contrary effect boosts from Weather, Environmental conditions or held items? The article doesn't say. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 16:46, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
:Oh and what about negative effects from Weather, Environmental conditions or held items? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 19:22, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
::Contrary only affects stat stage modifications. Other effects that modify stats, such as weather and the Choice items, are unaffected. Of course, there are some held items it affects, since some held items affect stat stages, such as the [[Liechi Berry]] and the [[Absorb Bulb]]. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 19:44, 30 May 2015 (UTC)