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The origin section suggests its based on a hedgehog. I can see where this comes from, but when compared to a giant armadillo when standing, you can make several comparisons. The long tail, the arms poking out from underneath its shell as well as the three-clawed hands. We can even compare to the pink fairy armadillo, which sports similar white fur on its underside, similar things can be said about Chespin, as like the fairy armadillo, its shell only covers its back. Just a suggestion, obviously what type of animal it is based on will be clouded by it being based of knights, war machines and chestnuts. It's hard to be sure. {{unsigned|Headsprouter}} | The origin section suggests its based on a hedgehog. I can see where this comes from, but when compared to a giant armadillo when standing, you can make several comparisons. The long tail, the arms poking out from underneath its shell as well as the three-clawed hands. We can even compare to the pink fairy armadillo, which sports similar white fur on its underside, similar things can be said about Chespin, as like the fairy armadillo, its shell only covers its back. Just a suggestion, obviously what type of animal it is based on will be clouded by it being based of knights, war machines and chestnuts. It's hard to be sure. {{unsigned|Headsprouter}} | ||
:Per the citation on the {{p|Chespin}} page, the line is canonically based on hedgehogs according to graphic designer Hironobu Yoshida. I don't see any indication that they were also based on armadillos, and I personally think we shouldn't list speculation alongside canon as though both were equally likely. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:11, 21 December 2013 (UTC) | :Per the citation on the {{p|Chespin}} page, the line is canonically based on hedgehogs according to graphic designer Hironobu Yoshida. I don't see any indication that they were also based on armadillos, and I personally think we shouldn't list speculation alongside canon as though both were equally likely. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 00:11, 21 December 2013 (UTC) | ||
::The citation refers specifically to Chespin being based on a hedgehog. It doesn't really address the later evolutions except in saying they are inspired by RPG-type classes. Chesnaught looks very little like a hedgehog, even less so than Chespin, and while it may have been the starting off point for the concept there are other apparent influences. Pokemon do not have to be, and often aren't, based on just one thing. Compare Chesnaught to a hedgehog pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Cute-Hedgehog.jpg and then to an armored mammal like an armadillo, or (better yet) a glyptodont upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Glyptodon_(Riha2000).jpg. Many features, such as Chesnaught's overall shape, claws, long tail, body armor, and even the "helmet" are very similar to these mammals. While wild speculation should be discouraged, it is worth pointing out that Chesnaught takes design cues from various places. His concept as a hedgehog combined with a chestnut is interesting enough, but the similarities to other creatures shouldn't be considered "wrong" just because an offhand interview response about Chespin didn't outline every single facet of the family's concept. Yes, "canon" states that Chespin is a chestnut/hedgehog, but his evolutions are ever more complex and that should be recognized in the origin section. No harm comes from noting that this Pokemon shares similarities with several real-world species, especially when the article mentions elsewhere that the primary influence was hedgehogs. [[User:Togeknight|~Destruction on Wings~]] ([[User talk:Togeknight|talk]]) 23:28, 26 December 2013 (UTC) | ::The citation refers specifically to Chespin being based on a hedgehog. It doesn't really address the later evolutions except in saying they are inspired by RPG-type classes. Chesnaught looks very little like a hedgehog, even less so than Chespin, and while it may have been the starting off point for the concept there are other apparent influences. Pokemon do not have to be, and often aren't, based on just one thing. Compare Chesnaught to a hedgehog (pokejungle.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Cute-Hedgehog.jpg) and then to an armored mammal like an armadillo, or (better yet) a glyptodont (upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/Glyptodon_(Riha2000).jpg). Many features, such as Chesnaught's overall shape, claws, long tail, body armor, and even the "helmet" are very similar to these mammals. While wild speculation should be discouraged, it is worth pointing out that Chesnaught takes design cues from various places. His concept as a hedgehog combined with a chestnut is interesting enough, but the similarities to other creatures shouldn't be considered "wrong" just because an offhand interview response about Chespin didn't outline every single facet of the family's concept. Yes, "canon" states that Chespin is a chestnut/hedgehog, but his evolutions are ever more complex and that should be recognized in the origin section. No harm comes from noting that this Pokemon shares similarities with several real-world species, especially when the article mentions elsewhere that the primary influence was hedgehogs. [[User:Togeknight|~Destruction on Wings~]] ([[User talk:Togeknight|talk]]) 23:28, 26 December 2013 (UTC) | ||