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:: Agreed. I think we need a verbal confirmation. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:18, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
:: Agreed. I think we need a verbal confirmation. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 20:18, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
:::IT wasn't counter shield guys, it was idea Ash took from the idea of Lance that he uses as red Gyarados did against Lance Charizard {{unsigned|Gian9456}}
:::IT wasn't counter shield guys, it was idea Ash took from the idea of Lance that he uses as red Gyarados did against Lance Charizard {{unsigned|Gian9456}}
:::::So what does everybody thinks what i said. This fighting style was from Lance that Ash uses in the battle.{{unsigned|Gian9456}}


== Why was it deleted  ==
== Why was it deleted  ==


The extra info I put on. Another person checked on it and corrected it.--Gian9456 00:10, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
The extra info I put on. Another person checked on it and corrected it. {{unsigned|Gian9456}}


:Didn't you read my edit summary? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:08, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
:Didn't you read my edit summary? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:08, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
:: Did I get it right. Also, why was the extra info i did on Dragonite was wrong? I don't understand proven to be extremely resilient pokemon to take on mega evolution pokemon and the pokemon earlier. It was still eager to battle if you noticed it didn't seem Dragonite realize it won the battle until Ash told it--Gian9456 00:12, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
:: Did I get it right. Also, why was the extra info i did on Dragonite was wrong? I don't understand proven to be extremely resilient pokemon to take on mega evolution pokemon and the pokemon earlier. It was still eager to battle if you noticed it didn't seem Dragonite realize it won the battle until Ash told it {{unsigned|Gian9456}}
:::And I'm asking if you read my edit summary from my reversion. Did you? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:16, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
::::Yes. I'm sign it. Why you deleted each time and also did you read nay of info put on. Even top of these comments about Lance idea was used again in this new episode by Ash Dragonite. {{unsigned|Gian9456}}
:::::Yes, I did read it. I said [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=Ash%27s_Dragonite&type=revision&diff=3195933&oldid=3195888 the information was confusing and contradictory at times]. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:25, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
::::::How was it confusing. In the history, Dragonite said to be extremely tough pokemon against Mega Lucario and didn't seem to notice it won the battle until Ash told it. Also what you think of mine comment about Ash using the idea from Lance?{{unsigned|Gian9456}}
::::::: This is what you wrote: "Dragonite was able to withstand most of its opponent's attacks and defeated in the end." It's this kind of wording that puzzles me and forces me to revert it because I don't know what you're trying to communicate. Was Dragonite defeated? Or did it defeat its opponent? [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:35, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
::::::::You are right. I'm sorry that my grammar is awful. I can't improve it at all. It's my own problems to deal with. I'm trying to say, Dragonite was able to withstand most of its opponent's attacks proven its resilience was very high that was enough to defeat both opponents. Also what you think about Lance that Ash uses his idea for that battle. {{unsigned|Gian9456}}
:::::::::Thank you for the clarification. I've re-added with the proper wording. [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 00:47, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::Omg. Thank you. I was really upset about this. Because I want to be part of this. But the way people deleted my comments makes me feel that I cant be part of this. Thank you. Now, what about this additional info, Dragonite still focus on Lucario, it didn't realize it won the battle until Ash came from behind to tell it.{{unsigned|Gian9456}}
:::::::::::Still confused by its significance... [[User:GrammarFreak01|GrammarFreak01]] ([[User talk:GrammarFreak01|talk]]) 06:31, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::::What you mean? I don't understand. Dragonite just focuses on the battle, didn't seem ti knew it won the battle as it was still had its eyes forward and serious appearance on the battle. Also what about Dragon dance, Ash use a similar technique from Lance's Gyarados. {{unsigned|Gian9456}}
:::::::::::::So is everyone ignoring me about Ash using a similar technique from Shiny Gyarados of Lance--Gian9456 01:01, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
 
== Hyper Beam in debut episode ==
A Dragonite used Hyper Beam on TR in Dragonair's debut episode, right after it evolved. But there were two Dragonite. The shot was weirdly cut. Since Ash's Dragonite knows Hyper Beam would it be safe to say that it was Ash's Dragonite that attacked TR, thus moving Hyper Beam's debut date from Episode 25 to Episode 10?--[[User:ShallowShaddoll|ShallowShaddoll]] ([[User talk:ShallowShaddoll|talk]]) 11:36, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
:No, that's speculation. Also, Dragonite was clearly holding Ash. Unless it handed him off to the other Dragonite or put him down, it couldn't be it. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 12:57, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
 
== Dragonite's Gender ==
 
I don't know how accurate the subtitles are supposed to be and I don't speak Japanese, but I did notice in the subtitles for yesterday's episode (JN131) that when Dragonite got speed lowered from Drum Beating, Diantha remarks "Her speed dropped", according to the subtitles. Can someone who speaks and understands Japanese actually confirm if that was exactly what was said? [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] ([[User talk:Torpoleon|talk]]) 17:02, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
:No gender was mentioned, she just remarked that Dragonite's speed is down. This is another case of subbers taking liberties and adding genders when no gender was spoken.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#44BAE5">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#85D2EE">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#DA7D99">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#E7ABBD">ire</span>]] 08:33, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
::OK, that makes sense. Thanks for confirming! [[User:Torpoleon|Torpoleon]] ([[User talk:Torpoleon|talk]]) 18:43, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 18:44, 6 November 2022

So in JN025 Dragonite used Dragon Dance to create a spinning defense against Korrina's Mienshao's attack. Do we call that a Counter-Shield?

--KrspaceT (talk) 13:25, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

I think it needs to be more explicit--KnightGalarie (talk) 13:42, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
Agreed. I think we need a verbal confirmation. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 20:18, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
IT wasn't counter shield guys, it was idea Ash took from the idea of Lance that he uses as red Gyarados did against Lance Charizard - unsigned comment from Gian9456 (talkcontribs)
So what does everybody thinks what i said. This fighting style was from Lance that Ash uses in the battle.- unsigned comment from Gian9456 (talkcontribs)

Why was it deleted

The extra info I put on. Another person checked on it and corrected it. - unsigned comment from Gian9456 (talkcontribs)

Didn't you read my edit summary? GrammarFreak01 (talk) 00:08, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
Did I get it right. Also, why was the extra info i did on Dragonite was wrong? I don't understand proven to be extremely resilient pokemon to take on mega evolution pokemon and the pokemon earlier. It was still eager to battle if you noticed it didn't seem Dragonite realize it won the battle until Ash told it - unsigned comment from Gian9456 (talkcontribs)
And I'm asking if you read my edit summary from my reversion. Did you? GrammarFreak01 (talk) 00:16, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
Yes. I'm sign it. Why you deleted each time and also did you read nay of info put on. Even top of these comments about Lance idea was used again in this new episode by Ash Dragonite. - unsigned comment from Gian9456 (talkcontribs)
Yes, I did read it. I said the information was confusing and contradictory at times. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 00:25, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
How was it confusing. In the history, Dragonite said to be extremely tough pokemon against Mega Lucario and didn't seem to notice it won the battle until Ash told it. Also what you think of mine comment about Ash using the idea from Lance?- unsigned comment from Gian9456 (talkcontribs)
This is what you wrote: "Dragonite was able to withstand most of its opponent's attacks and defeated in the end." It's this kind of wording that puzzles me and forces me to revert it because I don't know what you're trying to communicate. Was Dragonite defeated? Or did it defeat its opponent? GrammarFreak01 (talk) 00:35, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
You are right. I'm sorry that my grammar is awful. I can't improve it at all. It's my own problems to deal with. I'm trying to say, Dragonite was able to withstand most of its opponent's attacks proven its resilience was very high that was enough to defeat both opponents. Also what you think about Lance that Ash uses his idea for that battle. - unsigned comment from Gian9456 (talkcontribs)
Thank you for the clarification. I've re-added with the proper wording. GrammarFreak01 (talk) 00:47, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
Omg. Thank you. I was really upset about this. Because I want to be part of this. But the way people deleted my comments makes me feel that I cant be part of this. Thank you. Now, what about this additional info, Dragonite still focus on Lucario, it didn't realize it won the battle until Ash came from behind to tell it.- unsigned comment from Gian9456 (talkcontribs)
Still confused by its significance... GrammarFreak01 (talk) 06:31, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
What you mean? I don't understand. Dragonite just focuses on the battle, didn't seem ti knew it won the battle as it was still had its eyes forward and serious appearance on the battle. Also what about Dragon dance, Ash use a similar technique from Lance's Gyarados. - unsigned comment from Gian9456 (talkcontribs)
So is everyone ignoring me about Ash using a similar technique from Shiny Gyarados of Lance--Gian9456 01:01, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Hyper Beam in debut episode

A Dragonite used Hyper Beam on TR in Dragonair's debut episode, right after it evolved. But there were two Dragonite. The shot was weirdly cut. Since Ash's Dragonite knows Hyper Beam would it be safe to say that it was Ash's Dragonite that attacked TR, thus moving Hyper Beam's debut date from Episode 25 to Episode 10?--ShallowShaddoll (talk) 11:36, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

No, that's speculation. Also, Dragonite was clearly holding Ash. Unless it handed him off to the other Dragonite or put him down, it couldn't be it. Ataro (talk) 12:57, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

Dragonite's Gender

I don't know how accurate the subtitles are supposed to be and I don't speak Japanese, but I did notice in the subtitles for yesterday's episode (JN131) that when Dragonite got speed lowered from Drum Beating, Diantha remarks "Her speed dropped", according to the subtitles. Can someone who speaks and understands Japanese actually confirm if that was exactly what was said? Torpoleon (talk) 17:02, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

No gender was mentioned, she just remarked that Dragonite's speed is down. This is another case of subbers taking liberties and adding genders when no gender was spoken.--ForceFire 08:33, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
OK, that makes sense. Thanks for confirming! Torpoleon (talk) 18:43, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
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