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::: Update: I got it to work with the RTC editor from furlock's forest. Turns out that if you have ever saved on your game with VBA’s RTC enabled, the game is messed up. I couldn't get such games to run again, but it works fine on all other games (untouched by VBA). As I was doing most of my testing etc. with a cartridge that had been messed up by VBA, most of my test results were simply off and made no sense. It seems like at the moment, the RTC edit tool is the only thing that can really help you as simply changing the 'last save' date etc. with save file editors doesn't work. At the moment there is only the GBA flash cart version around, maybe one day someone will make a version that runs on DS flash carts, too. Anyways. If you think it's a good idea, maybe update that last sentence about the 'last save' date and/or add a note that save files that have been saved on with VBA's real-time clock enabled won't work in any case? [[User:Peterpansexuell|Peterpansexuell]] ([[User talk:Peterpansexuell|talk]]) 11:26, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
::: Update: I got it to work with the RTC editor from furlock's forest. Turns out that if you have ever saved on your game with VBA’s RTC enabled, the game is messed up. I couldn't get such games to run again, but it works fine on all other games (untouched by VBA). As I was doing most of my testing etc. with a cartridge that had been messed up by VBA, most of my test results were simply off and made no sense. It seems like at the moment, the RTC edit tool is the only thing that can really help you as simply changing the 'last save' date etc. with save file editors doesn't work. At the moment there is only the GBA flash cart version around, maybe one day someone will make a version that runs on DS flash carts, too. Anyways. If you think it's a good idea, maybe update that last sentence about the 'last save' date and/or add a note that save files that have been saved on with VBA's real-time clock enabled won't work in any case? [[User:Peterpansexuell|Peterpansexuell]] ([[User talk:Peterpansexuell|talk]]) 11:26, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
:::: I think I commented on the "Emulator that supplies PC Clock as RTC value"-problem on furlock's forest. As this strongly refers to using emulators for playing the games, I'm not sure whether it should be included on the glitch page (there are other pages containing the word "emulator" or "VBA"). I don't think that VBA manipulates the savegame in other ways than an original GBA (as in "should not alter the game-started-flags") but simply causes high numbers to be written to the "last time saved". So I would expect that changing the "last time saved"-field in the savegame should fix this - but I have not looked into this. To be honest: I agree with furlock that writing to the RTC seems cleaner than patching the savegame. [[User:TCCPhreak|TCCPhreak]] ([[User talk:TCCPhreak|talk]]) 15:23, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
:::: I think I commented on the "Emulator that supplies PC Clock as RTC value"-problem on furlock's forest. As this strongly refers to using emulators for playing the games, I'm not sure whether it should be included on the glitch page (there are other pages containing the word "emulator" or "VBA"). I don't think that VBA manipulates the savegame in other ways than an original GBA (as in "should not alter the game-started-flags") but simply causes high numbers to be written to the "last time saved". So I would expect that changing the "last time saved"-field in the savegame should fix this - but I have not looked into this. To be honest: I agree with furlock that writing to the RTC seems cleaner than patching the savegame. [[User:TCCPhreak|TCCPhreak]] ([[User talk:TCCPhreak|talk]]) 15:23, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
::::: I have not managed to make *any* game work again with just editing the 'last save' value (and other time values) in the save file, not even the untouched ones, sadly. My game with a VBA-influenced save file, however, does not work even when I change the actual RTC of the cartridge, it’s just messed up. Also, when I edit time values in the save file of that game, e.g. the in-game time (that you set on your clock in your room), what I enter and what is actually displayed by the game are two completely different times. So while I am not willing yet to rule out the possibility that doing things with the save file alone (without touching the RTC) might make a game work again (although I haven't been able to do so so far; and I've tried quite a lot), I can say that a VBA-saved game doesn't even work again after an RTC-fix. I just thought mentioning that might be useful for people in similar situations, lest they try everything and get disappointed because they at one point saved via VBA with its RTC on. But I'm also just glad that it got mentioned at least here now, that's sometimes enough already for people who look for every bit of info in these situations … ^^ [[User:Peterpansexuell|Peterpansexuell]] ([[User talk:Peterpansexuell|talk]]) 17:14, 15 September 2014 (UTC)