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:::::[http://www.dailymotion.com/PEOSeason14#video=xtdq6f The reference is also in the dub], and I was keeping that in mind, but I'm still a bit dubious, because I was thinking that it's just an umbrella term/expression. Iris only referred to Cilan and Pansage as "gentlemen" since it would be pretty redundant to say "lady(ies) and gentleman(men)" unless when addressing a large group of people (kinda like in Spanish, where the plural masculine pronoun is always used when there is at least one male within a group of people, regardless of how many females there are, if any). | :::::[http://www.dailymotion.com/PEOSeason14#video=xtdq6f The reference is also in the dub], and I was keeping that in mind, but I'm still a bit dubious, because I was thinking that it's just an umbrella term/expression. Iris only referred to Cilan and Pansage as "gentlemen" since it would be pretty redundant to say "lady(ies) and gentleman(men)" unless when addressing a large group of people (kinda like in Spanish, where the plural masculine pronoun is always used when there is at least one male within a group of people, regardless of how many females there are, if any). | ||
:::::As for the original (of that episode as well as BW098), I can't really say anything about that, because I don't understand a single word in Japanese, and fansubs are rarely 100% accurate. [[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:blue">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]]'' 05:07, 7 November 2012 (UTC) | :::::As for the original (of that episode as well as BW098), I can't really say anything about that, because I don't understand a single word in Japanese, and fansubs are rarely 100% accurate. [[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:blue">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]]'' 05:07, 7 November 2012 (UTC) | ||
:Ok, just looked over a few other things, and here's a better explanation: Pachirisu's central head stripe appears to be of the male length, yet Dawn regularly dresses it in cheerleader outfits. Unlike Pikachu's (among the other male Pokémon) clearly expressed dislike of wearing maid outfits in the DP Miltank episode, Pachirisu didn't appear to have a problem with "crossdressing." To top it off, Pachirisu was never referred to by a certain gender (to the best of my knowledge at least). That pretty much debunks the point made by BW098. | |||
:In a more similar scenario, Brock's Onix/Steelix is always male in the games, and much like Pikachu and Meowth, it's referred to as male on multiple occasions in the anime (at least in the dub; again, I can't say anything about the original). Pansage was identified as male only once (which is BW009, as noted above). | |||
:In short, while there is evidence that points to it, there's no real 100% proof which confirms that Pansage is male in the anime. Compared to a majority of the other Pokémon owned by main characters, I don't see why Pansage should be treated differently just because of some random one-time event (which is really outdated by now btw). So unless there's stronger evidence or someone comes up with a good argument(s) that Pansage is male, I suggest changing it to Unknown (confirmed male in the games), and if no case is made sooner or later, I'll change it myself. [[User:GamerGeek|<span style="color:blue">Gamer</span>]][[User talk:GamerGeek|<span style="color:gold">Geek</span>]]'' 01:19, 9 November 2012 (UTC) | |||