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There seems to be only 11 version exclusives in the Friend Safari: Throh, Sawk, Manectric, Pupitar, Cloyster, Pinsir, Heracross, Mightyena, Liepard, Spritzee and Swirlix. Whoa, looks like the version-exclusives would be reduced to half. But we can still put a note listing the version exclusives that appear in the Friend Safari on the version exclusives page. You guys are making it harder than it should. Just because some version exclusives can be found in the Friend Safari in both versions? The Caterpie and Weedle lines would have been version exclusives in Johto if it weren't for that Bug-Catching Contest. And Latias roams Hoenn in Sapphire and Kanto in HeartGold, while Latios roams Hoenn in Ruby and Kanto in SoulSilver. However, they can be caught in each other's game by an event item. And I don't think Friend Safari should be a special rarity. I think the Pokémon found there should be just considered rare. I really think Friend Safari should just be treated as well as any location. It is not a way to transfer Pokémon from previous games like Pal Park or an external thing like Dream World or the Pokéwalker. It is a legimate in-game way of getting Pokémon. You just need a Friend Code to enter. And that Friend doesn't necessarily have to have the Pokémon found in his/her Safari or agree to link with you. And while it is random, less than a third of the 718 Pokémon can be found in there. Others like Rattata can't be obtained. While I might be fine with having the asterisks, maybe put the type in the asterisk too, unless it is a single-typed, the type of Safari would be obvious. Although, Cascoon is found in the Poison type Safari even though it is a pure {{t|Bug}} type. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 17:12, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
There seems to be only 11 version exclusives in the Friend Safari: Throh, Sawk, Manectric, Pupitar, Cloyster, Pinsir, Heracross, Mightyena, Liepard, Spritzee and Swirlix. Whoa, looks like the version-exclusives would be reduced to half. But we can still put a note listing the version exclusives that appear in the Friend Safari on the version exclusives page. You guys are making it harder than it should. Just because some version exclusives can be found in the Friend Safari in both versions? The Caterpie and Weedle lines would have been version exclusives in Johto if it weren't for that Bug-Catching Contest. And Latias roams Hoenn in Sapphire and Kanto in HeartGold, while Latios roams Hoenn in Ruby and Kanto in SoulSilver. However, they can be caught in each other's game by an event item. And I don't think Friend Safari should be a special rarity. I think the Pokémon found there should be just considered rare. I really think Friend Safari should just be treated as well as any location. It is not a way to transfer Pokémon from previous games like Pal Park or an external thing like Dream World or the Pokéwalker. It is a legimate in-game way of getting Pokémon. You just need a Friend Code to enter. And that Friend doesn't necessarily have to have the Pokémon found in his/her Safari or agree to link with you. And while it is random, less than a third of the 718 Pokémon can be found in there. Others like Rattata can't be obtained. While I might be fine with having the asterisks, maybe put the type in the asterisk too, unless it is a single-typed, the type of Safari would be obvious. Although, Cascoon is found in the Poison type Safari even though it is a pure {{t|Bug}} type. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 17:12, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
::::I like the idea of "Friend Safari" having its own segment.  I don't think "Slot 1" or "Slot 2", etc. are necessary, though for Slot 3 you might want to note that the Pokémon can only be found in a Safari belonging to someone who finished the game.  No other notes regarding slots are necessary.
::::I like the idea of "Friend Safari" having its own segment.  I don't think "Slot 1" or "Slot 2", etc. are necessary, though for Slot 3 you might want to note that the Pokémon can only be found in a Safari belonging to someone who finished the game.  No other notes regarding slots are necessary.
:::::Reply regarding Contest and Lati - it's because, unlike Friend Safari, they're set and the same for every player. Friend Safari, on other hand, is all but fixed. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 17:03, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
:I have more thoughts but am on the way out for the evening.  I'll post more another time.  Happy holidays!  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 21:20, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
:I have more thoughts but am on the way out for the evening.  I'll post more another time.  Happy holidays!  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 21:20, 24 December 2013 (UTC)


Well I have not attended this conversation in forever, but currently I'm not universally against listing Pokemon as available in the Friend Safari (people are right: it is valid and useful information, especially for species that in XY only appear in the Friend Safari), just against listing it as the ''only'' place if there's a more direct way to obtain that species.  The specific example that prompted my post was seeing {{p|Fletchinder}}'s page list ''only'' the Friend Safari as an in-game location, when it's clear that the player is more likely to actually obtain a Fletchinder by evolving a Fletchling (who is readily obtained in the Kalos wild).  Pokemon species locations are generally listed starting from the "earliest" location/method they can be obtained in the given game, so if a page lists only the Friend Safari (or a [[trade]]) as a location, this presents an implication that it ''cannot be caught or obtained earlier than that'', which in Fletchinder's case is obviously not true.  --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 07:28, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
Well I have not attended this conversation in forever, but currently I'm not universally against listing Pokemon as available in the Friend Safari (people are right: it is valid and useful information, especially for species that in XY only appear in the Friend Safari), just against listing it as the ''only'' place if there's a more direct way to obtain that species.  The specific example that prompted my post was seeing {{p|Fletchinder}}'s page list ''only'' the Friend Safari as an in-game location, when it's clear that the player is more likely to actually obtain a Fletchinder by evolving a Fletchling (who is readily obtained in the Kalos wild).  Pokemon species locations are generally listed starting from the "earliest" location/method they can be obtained in the given game, so if a page lists only the Friend Safari (or a [[trade]]) as a location, this presents an implication that it ''cannot be caught or obtained earlier than that'', which in Fletchinder's case is obviously not true.  --''[[User:Stratelier|Stratelier]]'' 07:28, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
:{{DL|Talk:Friend Safari|Post-Christmas Update on This?|The admins have already made the decision to include the Friend Safari.}} It's just taking awhile to get the templates properly put together to accommodate it. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:50, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
:{{DL|Talk:Friend Safari|Post-Christmas Update on This?|The admins have already made the decision to include the Friend Safari.}} It's just taking awhile to get the templates properly put together to accommodate it. [[User:Pumpkinking0192|Pumpkinking0192]] ([[User talk:Pumpkinking0192|talk]]) 16:50, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
:::::Reply regarding Contest and Lati - it's because, unlike Friend Safari, they're set and the same for every player. Friend Safari, on other hand, is all but fixed. [[User:Eridanus|Eridanus]] ([[User talk:Eridanus|talk]]) 17:03, 5 February 2014 (UTC)


== Finding the type based on Friend Code ==
== Finding the type based on Friend Code ==
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