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==Translation==
Just a thing: the translation of the Japanese name should be often the word it means... but since this move is a play on the fact that the same hiragana can mean multiple things... there you go. It's gonna be named as ''Noroi'' in Japanese. '''''Do not''''' do this with the other 466 moves. GOT IT? '''[[User:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#DAA520">''TTE''</span>]][[User talk:TTEchidna|<span style="color:#C0C0C0">chidna</span>]]''' 11:29, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
:Replying to a very old comment, but after looking at the article, I disagree. The translation should be "Curse/Slow" or something like that, to illustrate the dual nature of the name. What we have now isn't a translation at all. [[User:Bikini Miltank|Bikini Miltank]] 23:32, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
::I agree. ''Noroi'' is not a translation. That place is where actual translations belong, and "Curse/Slow" makes the most sense. Maybe even put a link to the trivia section (or make a new section for that trivia point and link to that instead) in the translation. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 12:35, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

== Trivia ==
Can smeargle be ghost type by color change, because ghost type attacks do not harm smeargle.--[[User:Banetoid|Banetoid]] 21:16, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
::Yes. Say it gets hit by any other move first, THEN hit by a ghost type move, it will turn ghost type. [[User:Tyro|<span style="color#000000"><sup>'''Tyro!'''</sup></span>]] [[Special:Random|<small>Talk to me!</small>]] 21:10, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

== Wonder Guard ==

Will Curse (when performed by a Ghost-type) inflict damage to a Pokémon with [[Wonder Guard (ability)|Wonder Guard]]? If yes, what happens to a Shedinja, since it has only 1 HP? Will the damage be rounded up or down?--[[User:Afrael|Afrael]] 13:42, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
:Most likely, because a Pokémon with Wonder Guard can still get hurt by a burn or poison. It would most likely faint, because unlike Substitute, a Pokémon can faint using the move Curse. [[User:Turtwig A|Turt]][[wig]] [[Turtwig (Pokémon)|A]] ([[User talk:Turtwig A|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Turtwig A|contribs]]) 13:58, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
::To answer your second question, IIRC if the game attempts to manage a 'fractional' value for the amount of damage taken it is always rounded up. Shedinja would in theory lose 0.25 HP, but this would be rounded up to 1 HP. If a level 2 Pidgey uses Tackle on a level 100 Steelix it would lose 1 HP not a very small fractional amount of HP because the game can only work with whole integers - 0 damage (never normally used for attacks that hit) to 65535 damage which I think might have been changed to 6 bytes (16777215-1) in later games . Hope that helps. =] --[[User:Chickasaurus|Chickasaurus]] 14:19, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

== Normal Type ==

Does Curse in its new Ghost form affect normal type pokemon? I know it says the effect is the same but I think it should be clearer; ghost moves dont usually hit normal after all. [[User:PowerPlantRaichu|PowerPlantRaichu]] 09:05, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
:It works normally. Immunities are only for damage-dealing moves, not status moves. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 14:58, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

== Why A Nail? ==

Is there any explanation why Curse is commonly shown as a nail being pounded into the user as well as the target? It's something I've always been curious about and hoped to learn more about in the Curse entry page.{{unsigned|Joec}}
:I believe it may be related to voodoo, unless there is some Japanese cultural thing that is a more likely origin. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 16:13, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
:It might be analogous to inserting nails into a voodoo doll!! [[User:Thiagovscoelho|Thiagovscoelho]] ([[User talk:Thiagovscoelho|talk]]) 23:51, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

== Baton Pass ==

Can the victim of the ghost variety of Curse (the nail through the head one) pass the effect off with Baton Pass? [[User:Dimenticare|Dimenticare]] ([[User talk:Dimenticare|talk]]) 23:29, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

== Pokémon Creepy Black ==
A move called "curse" is also a centrepiece in creepypasta regarding a cursed "black" version of Pokémon. Should it be mentioned here? What is the position of this wiki towards creepypasta? [[User:Thiagovscoelho|Thiagovscoelho]] ([[User talk:Thiagovscoelho|talk]]) 23:48, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
:We do not add anything related to creepypasta as it is not relevant. They are just fan made games that are in no way official.--[[User:Force Fire|<span style="color:#025DA6">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#5A96C5">orce</span>]][[User talk:Force Fire|<span style="color:#EA1A3E">'''F'''</span><span style="color:#F16A81">ire</span>]] 02:26, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

== Format Bold for Ghost-types ==

Since this move works differently for Ghost-types, would it be a good idea to format every Ghost-type with bold? Yes, one could see their type to determine that the move works differently for them, but much like how STAB moves get a bold even if one knows their type, it makes it easier for the reader to know that the move is different for certain Pokémon, in an exclusive way. [[User:Winstein|Winstein]] ([[User talk:Winstein|talk]]) 17:48, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

==Snatch==
Curse is unaffected by Snatch because it lowers a stat. Is this relevant enough to add to trivia? [[User:UmbralHero|UmbralHero]] ([[User talk:UmbralHero|talk]]) 03:44, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
:It's already noted in the main infobox that the move is not affected by Snatch, so I don't think it needs to be added twice. [[Special:Contributions/Zesty Cactus|--]][[User:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#006400">'''Zesty'''</span>]][[User talk:Zesty Cactus|<span style="color:#3CB371">'''Cactus'''</span>]] 03:47, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

== Gen VI Protean Users cursing selves ==

Am I suppose to explain on the article the reason for why a Pokémon who use Curse cursing themselves? [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 23:21, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
:Also so far it would seem that being the target of trick-or-treat does not cause the same problem, it only occurs when the user's type changes via protean from what I am able to research without hacking or anything.[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 01:28, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
::Here is a  Vs Recorder video of the anomaly 6ZSW-WWWW-WWWU-MPSY

::As you can see, Sylveon is inflicted with the curse instead of the foe(s)[[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 07:01, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

:::Thanks for that, I'll have to take a look later.  [[User:CycloneGU|CycloneGU]] ([[User talk:CycloneGU|talk]]) 17:53, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
::::In a Double Battle, my Pokémon was turned into a Ghost type with Color Change before using Curse that turn, and it targeted its ally. --[[User:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#A70000">'''Snorlax'''</span>]][[User talk:SnorlaxMonster|<span style="color:#0000A7">'''Monster'''</span>]] 17:35, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

== Trick-or-Treat ==

The article says it affects the ally, but I just tested this in two triple battles and it effected the foe
Here are the videos: '''5D7G-WWWW-WWXX-C7P4''' and '''DMVW-WWWW-WWXX-C7NN'''
In the videos I have Pumpkaboo use Trick-or-Treat on Sylveon and she curses the opponent to her left both times. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 19:40, 16 January 2015 (UTC)

:So it seems that Trick-or-Treat on a curse user reacts differently depending on if its a double/triple battle, and the target's position.

:In a double battle, if the target is on the left, it will effect the foe with curse, but the ally if on the right. [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:29, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

::Here are some videos of it Curse on Foe in double battle after Trick-or-Treat: '''5AQW-WWWW-WWX2-CQPP''' 
::Curse on Ally in double battle after Trick-or-Treat: '''XXJW-WWWW-WWX2-CR4F'''

::I will test a triple battle next [[User:Yamitora1|Yamitora1]] ([[User talk:Yamitora1|talk]]) 21:49, 18 January 2015 (UTC)